CDC guidance changes, now if Saint Barth recognizes vaccinations, a game changer

Will be interesting to see how this passport thing plays out if significant percentages of public decline to be vaccinated and are removed from travel biz models. Airlines canceling swath of formerly flying public, and so forth.
 
Will be interesting to see how this passport thing plays out if significant percentages of public decline to be vaccinated and are removed from travel biz models. Airlines canceling swath of formerly flying public, and so forth.


There will be longer lines and more testing for non-believers. Maybe even different airlines will emerge for non-vaxxers. That is one of fears with a passport - class warfare.
 
perhaps

it’s not a question of « non-believer »

it’s a rational risk-benefit analysis based on perceived risk and perceived benefit.

nobody really knows either for sure.

we each will judge our own best interests.

just like we do for countless other personal decisions.
 
Nah. As Groucho used to remind us, the duck will come down when you say the secret word.....UNITY!
 
perhaps

it’s not a question of « non-believer »

it’s a rational risk-benefit analysis based on perceived risk and perceived benefit.

nobody really knows either for sure.

we each will judge our own best interests.

just like we do for countless other personal decisions.



The approved vaccines are protected from lawsuits until 2024. the drug companies should know all the side effects by then.
 
perhaps

it’s not a question of « non-believer »

it’s a rational risk-benefit analysis based on perceived risk and perceived benefit.

nobody really knows either for sure.

we each will judge our own best interests.

just like we do for countless other personal decisions.

Actually, there is a plethera of information on the efficacy and safety of all vaccines currently on the market. When the naysayers realize that they can't fly, most will come around. As many have stated in earlier posts, vaccine cards have been around and required for many years. (Yellow Fever, for instance)
 
yes, lots of people out there insisting they're safe. they may in the end prove to be safe ( I hope they do), but I personally know a number of medical or research professionals who either have taken a wait-and-see position or who categorically refuse to take them.
as Diana said, after a few years we should know more definitively if they are really safe or not.
 
I’m the OP and I saw this as a big change from CDC guidelines. Before, CDC was saying you could see unvaccinated grandchildren, but not fly to see them. They were also reserving judgment on the long term efficacy of the vaccine to prevent asymptomatic carriers, thus testing/quarantine required. I saw this as another step toward vaccination registration and travel free from PCR tests. Not there yet, but I’m betting that is outcome for international travel. Stay tuned.
What I am saying is I thought (stressing thought) that before this announcement they already could fly to see them as long as it was domestic and know people who have flown domestically without a test or proof of vaccination and not quarantined after. I don't think this was a change to any domestic air travel requirements just a change to their recommendation. OP: two uses - opening poster or opening post. I was trying to stress the quoted language and not infer it was your thinking because I wasn't sure it was your thinking. Should have been clearer. My bad.
 
yes, lots of people out there insisting they're safe. they may in the end prove to be safe ( I hope they do), but I personally know a number of medical or research professionals who either have taken a wait-and-see position or who categorically refuse to take them.
as Diana said, after a few years we should know more definitively if they are really safe or not.
And hopefully in a few years, those that feel that way will be in the minority and we won't be seeing 10,000 deaths per day (or anywhere near it) because of the people that did take the vaccine. You can thank us later :wink2:
 
hopefully in a few years the vaccines will have been proven safe.

i feel no need to thank you. you're acting in what you feel are your best interests, just as i am.
 
We had covid back in November all being we were asymptomatic, had a antibody test and we had antibodies, had both our vaccines and have had several antigen tests since as we had a trip to the uk (tests before and after ) and had to do a test twice in a week whilst we were there. All came back negative for covid.
 
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