NO REOPENING CAN BE CONSIDERED BEFORE WE CAN TEST THE ENTRANTS

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"NO REOPENING CAN BE CONSIDERED BEFORE WE CAN TEST THE ENTRANTS"
by Valentine Autruffe 05/06/2020

Nils Dufau, president of the Tourism Committee and vice-president of the Collectivity, did not have time to rejoice at the dazzling economic return of Saint Barth. Barely the Irma page turned, the coronavirus has showered the 2020 season. Two questions occupy it full time today: how to reopen the borders while minimizing the Covid-19 risk as much as possible? When will tourists be ready to return?

The Tourism Observatory report shows that before the whole world was paralyzed by a virus, Saint Barth had overcome the Irma page ...
This report is interesting because it is a summary over three years, which allows us to see the evolution rather than an image at an instant T. We see that we have managed to fully recover from the hurricane. Before Covid-19, we were all set to make the best season ever, even better than in 2016!

Do you have feedback, as chairman of the Tourism Committee, on the state of local businesses that live directly from this activity?
Our economy is not diversified, we only have tourism. From what I understand, it will be the hardest for the smallest companies. The State has put in place aid, in particular partial activity ... Some manage to find a compromise with their lessor to obtain a gesture on the rent, others are met with a clear refusal. Unfortunately, the owner cannot be asked to waive or suspend; the discussion must take place in good understanding.

No tourism without reopening the borders. This also implies a possible importation of the Covid-19 virus. What is the plan?
With all the overseas territories, we exchanged on the question of tourism with the Minister of Overseas. We were able to explain what we wanted for Saint-Barthélemy: that the entrant arrives with a screening test carried out, or at least a medical certificate attesting to his good health. Kind of like some countries that require the yellow fever vaccine for visitors. And when they arrive, we would like them to undergo a mandatory test.

Concretely, how is it going to happen?
Airport space will be required for testing. A first screening machine has already arrived on the island, three others are to follow. Those arriving will have to wait an hour for the result to return to the island. I think the people of Saint Barth will agree to reopen the borders only if we set up tests; this will reassure the population, but also tourists. We cannot wait for zero cases of Covid worldwide; we would risk waiting ten years. If we have all the necessary agreements - border control is a state prerogative - perhaps we can hope for a "micro-opening" at the end of the season.

Precisely, do you have an estimated date for the reopening of the borders?
We are coming in low season, and in any case, we must not rush. You have to do it very methodically. No reopening can be considered before we can test. But everyone has in mind that in November we will welcome tourists again. Do we make a small opening at the end of the season, before that? We looked at the big hotels, half of them, or five out of ten, would be willing to open before next season. The rest are too dependent on seasonal workers, most of whom have returned home. As for the small hotel industry, it is already ready. As after Irma: it was she who saved Saint-Barth! The villas are also ready, they are just waiting for the borders to reopen. It should be noted that many locals work with the villas: swimming pool specialists, air conditioning, gardeners, etc.

What about boats? Does it seem difficult to set up a test zone and make people wait an hour when disembarking from the ferries?
Imagine, already, a worker who makes the round trip every day between Saint-Martin and Saint-Barth: he should undergo the test every day! But it is certain that it is difficult to set up a test area today at the ferry terminal. And as long as we don’t have the capacity to test… There can’t be any boats.

What about yachts?
For them, it will be complicated, for sure ... But they will receive strict instructions upstream on the situation in Saint-Barthélemy.

The tourism report for 2019 reports 126,000 cruise passengers landed in Gustavia last year. The future of the cruise industry is particularly bleak today.

For them a complicated period is coming. That’s why I’m so worried about small traders in Gustavia. Restaurants can still work with locals, but for some businesses it will be very difficult. This sector is naturally compromised, and this is true all over the world. I think that we should expect a massive communication effort from cruise lines, focused on cleanliness and hygiene.

Suppose a tourist arrives from New York by plane, he lands in Saint John, and the screening test is positive. What becomes of it?
We can't put him back on the plane; he would stay in Saint-Barth for two weeks… We still have to determine a protocol for this scenario. The client will be warned well in advance of what will happen if they test positive.

Can we imagine that a wealthy visitor will spend two weeks in isolation at the Plaine des Jeux accommodation center?

We will bring him good meals ... (laughs)! More seriously, this issue has not been resolved. The subject is complicated, we have to adapt to the best. But as long as a clear protocol is not defined, there is no question of reopening the borders. However, you have to accept that zero risk will not exist. When we reopen, the virus will still be circulating around the world, so keep that in mind. We will have to live with it for a while. All the incredible efforts we have made with this containment have never been seen. We are moving forward, but in November, the Covid will still be present on the planet.

If Saint Barth is ready in November, what about tourists, and in particular Americans, who were very affected by the Covid-19 and who will be in the midst of the presidential election?

It’s about trust. Will it be enough to continue traveling? I think that in November, it will be the case, even if we will always see masks, protective reflexes. The confidence of tourists will also depend on the places they go to. In Saint-Barth, we have the advantage of not being in mass tourism. In hotels and villas, people are not on top of each other. Even though Princess Juliana Airport, our hub, remains closed, there will be a small opening through Puerto Rico. It is certain that the electoral period adds to the slump caused by the virus, and weighs on morale. However, we still have people who book, regulars, who plan to come as soon as the island is opened. I remind you that after Irma, our 25% of reception capacity was full right away. We would also have been full if we had 40% accommodation capacity. The CTTSB and the communication agencies with which we work are ready. We will communicate once the protocol for entering the island has been defined, and only then, in two days or two months. Tourists must be aware of the situation in Saint-Barth before coming.


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Tests in the countries of origin: not wise according to Macron

In addition to the test once on Saint Barth’s soil, the Collectivity was working on the possibility of asking each new arrival on the island to carry out a screening test for Covid-19, in their place of residence. This idea, submitted by Bruno Magras to President Emmanuel Macron in videoconference last week, was rebutted by the head of state. The latter considers that, depending on the country where it is performed, the reliability of the screening test cannot be guaranteed. Rather, he suggested to the president of the Com to submit the new arrivals to a first test, and to a second on the third day of their stay, for greater safety.
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sounds like a wise plan.

they will have to test a new arrival, there will be no getting around that because even if they had paperwork from their country, it means nothing as papers can be forged.Macron was right to reject this.

perhaps a soft opening towards the last of october, to test the waters would be a good idea.

I have also noticed that most of the seasonal workers have already left the island, I am wondering where some of the restaurants will get employees to stay open during the summer. it will be interesting to see which restaurant opens next week. No doubt select will open as they use locals.
 
Very interesting time ahead for the economy of St. Barts, which was clearly stated in the above conference transcript. "The Island is not diversified and relies upon tourism". I feel especially for the Villa Owners, whom have mortgages, utilities and upkeep to pay while their Villas remain vacant. The vacant Villas lasting for several months if stringent entry requirements last into next season. It appears we will have to research other Island destinations. I respect each Island's decision in conducting what is best for each jurisdiction. So many choices around the planet.
 
Very interesting time ahead for the economy of St. Barts, which was clearly stated in the above conference transcript. "The Island is not diversified and relies upon tourism". I feel especially for the Villa Owners, whom have mortgages, utilities and upkeep to pay while their Villas remain vacant. The vacant Villas lasting for several months if stringent entry requirements last into next season. It appears we will have to research other Island destinations. I respect each Island's decision in conducting what is best for each jurisdiction. So many choices around the planet.

St. Barths will not be the only tourist destination making this same decision. so choose wisely.
 
sounds like a wise plan.

they will have to test a new arrival, there will be no getting around that because even if they had paperwork from their country, it means nothing as papers can be forged.Macron was right to reject this.

perhaps a soft opening towards the last of october, to test the waters would be a good idea.

I have also noticed that most of the seasonal workers have already left the island, I am wondering where some of the restaurants will get employees to stay open during the summer. it will be interesting to see which restaurant opens next week. No doubt select will open as they use locals.


The issues associated with testing on arrival versus testing prior to departure lend themselves to advocating testing at both departure and arrival. This is especially true for an island which seeks to protect itself from permitting infected persons from arriving at all.
Mandatory 3 minute blood testing upon entry into the Departure Screening areas makes sense.

Here are some discussion points:

Arrival Testing Only :
If one person on the flight tests positive upon arrival what happens to the other passengers and pilots?
Will the pilots have to go into quarantine for 14 days?
Will the other passengers have to go into quarantine for 14 days?
Could this have been avoided?

Departure Testing:
Approximately 1,300,000 Americans have Corona Virus as of today - or about 1/3 of 1% Of the US population. One (1) out of every 300 persons might have the virus. Assuming 100 arrivals per day would suggest 1 infected person for every 3 days of arrivals.
However if testing was done on departure and assuming the tests are 95% effective. Then 1 out of 20 infected people might get through.
this then brings us to 1 out of 60 days of arrivals could test positive as opposed to 1 out of 3.

It is currently suggested that the SBH tests will require the passenger to sit in a room awaiting results for one hour. Here one might simply ask, why not get a sufficient number of 3 - 10 minute tests?
A list of approved Test companies under emergency authority for the US is here:
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices...vices/emergency-use-authorizations#covid19ivd

The overall point here is that departure testing makes sense. It does not suggest that testing on arrival does not. In fact just the opposite.
Departure testing fundamentally makes sense in that it will eliminate a far greater number of potential virus carriers In ADVANCE of being cooped up in a small air craft tube for 1-5 hours.

In the long run, the traveling public will need to believe that authorities actually know what they are talking about and that test are proven to be fully reliable. We all know there will be exceptions, yet key here is a system of protection for all concerned. Testing before and after makes sense in the near future. Once vaccines are proven, we might breath a bit easier (once they are proven!).
 
The issues associated with testing on arrival versus testing prior to departure lend themselves to advocating testing at both departure and arrival. This is especially true for an island which seeks to protect itself from permitting infected persons from arriving at all.
Mandatory 3 minute blood testing upon entry into the Departure Screening areas makes sense.

Here are some discussion points:

Arrival Testing Only :
If one person on the flight tests positive upon arrival what happens to the other passengers and pilots?
Will the pilots have to go into quarantine for 14 days?
Will the other passengers have to go into quarantine for 14 days?
Could this have been avoided?

Departure Testing:
Approximately 1,300,000 Americans have Corona Virus as of today - or about 1/3 of 1% Of the US population. One (1) out of every 300 persons might have the virus. Assuming 100 arrivals per day would suggest 1 infected person for every 3 days of arrivals.
However if testing was done on departure and assuming the tests are 95% effective. Then 1 out of 20 infected people might get through.
this then brings us to 1 out of 60 days of arrivals could test positive as opposed to 1 out of 3.

It is currently suggested that the SBH tests will require the passenger to sit in a room awaiting results for one hour. Here one might simply ask, why not get a sufficient number of 3 - 10 minute tests?
A list of approved Test companies under emergency authority for the US is here:
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices...vices/emergency-use-authorizations#covid19ivd

The overall point here is that departure testing makes sense. It does not suggest that testing on arrival does not. In fact just the opposite.
Departure testing fundamentally makes sense in that it will eliminate a far greater number of potential virus carriers In ADVANCE of being cooped up in a small air craft tube for 1-5 hours.

In the long run, the traveling public will need to believe that authorities actually know what they are talking about and that test are proven to be fully reliable. We all know there will be exceptions, yet key here is a system of protection for all concerned. Testing before and after makes sense in the near future. Once vaccines are proven, we might breath a bit easier (once they are proven!).


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Most people arrive to SBH via SXM and SJU. So will the tests be done upon arrival there or St Barths? Or both? I wonder how that will be handled. If it becomes too onerous, will people just not try to travel to these places? How will that effect tourism? It gives me a headache just thinking about it!
 
Most people arrive to SBH via SXM and SJU. So will the tests be done upon arrival there or St Barths? Or both? I wonder how that will be handled. If it becomes too onerous, will people just not try to travel to these places? How will that effect tourism? It gives me a headache just thinking about it!

It would make sense that both islands sxm and sbh help each other. sxm & sbh would have to agree on which tests is best in doing this. it would protect both islands. another thought I had would be that if we had a soft opening in october, regulars that have been coming here for a number of years, would be the first tourists to be invited back. they could email their tests results ahead of the villa reservation or hotel reservation, that could be checked just before their arrival. its just a thought , we are all just trying to keep our island safe.

If you are asking if people might decide not to travel here because we have safety measures in place, remember, we are not going to be the only tourist destination that will require these tests. Only you can decide which island may be safer for you ( the tourist).
 
It would make sense that both islands sxm and sbh help each other. sxm & sbh would have to agree on which tests is best in doing this. it would protect both islands. another thought I had would be that if we had a soft opening in october, regulars that have been coming here for a number of years, would be the first tourists to be invited back. they could email their tests results ahead of the villa reservation or hotel reservation, that could be checked just before their arrival. its just a thought , we are all just trying to keep our island safe.

If you are asking if people might decide not to travel here because we have safety measures in place, remember, we are not going to be the only tourist destination that will require these tests. Only you can decide which island may be safer for you ( the tourist).
U.S. residents may decide to stay home or go to warmer states like Florida if these tests become too onerous.
 
Regarding United States residents, there are many beautiful and upscale destinations in the Florida Keys, et. al. I can respect St. Barths residents desiring to keep their Island safe. I know there have been statements about St. Barths residents enjoying the peace and quiet void of tourists. It will be very interesting to read the entry mandates for US citizens entering St. Barths.
 
I know but what’s that going to do to the island economy?

we survived Irma, we will survive this as well.

with Irma, 3 weeks without electricity, food was running low, trucks went around the island giving out water and pasta, no internet for awhile, phone service spotty at best. I used a barrel to wash clothes with water coming from the cistern with a hose. clothes line to hang the clothes outside. no lights at night, used candles. this lock down is like being in a palace compared to what we experienced with Irma. That is why we have to be very careful on opening the borders, hurricane + virus will kill us all. we have to wait till its safe. at least till october for tourists. november would be better.

It is better to survive and be healthy, St Barths is an island of beautiful beaches and great people, the tourists will come back eventually as this is a place like no where else and will remain so.

I have traveled the world, been to so many places, I kept coming back here, as will the future tourists.
 
This is a little different than property damage Diana but I love your enthusiasm and hope you are right.
 
The issues associated with testing on arrival versus testing prior to departure lend themselves to advocating testing at both departure and arrival. This is especially true for an island which seeks to protect itself from permitting infected persons from arriving at all. Mandatory 3 minute blood testing upon entry into the Departure Screening areas makes sense...

The diagnostic test for infection/contagiousness (PCR) is done by nasal swab. It looks for viral genetic material. My understanding is that St Barth has 4 machines (1 arrived, 3 coming or maybe also arrived). The ones purchased have (I believe) fastest turnaround times of about 30 minutes. US testing capacity will likely not allow for "planned trip to St Barth (or other location)" becoming a widely accepted testing criteria any time soon... not that I can't imagine the test being ordered and done for that reason but...

Blood (serology) tests check for evidence of prior infection by looking for antibodies made in response to the infection. This from Scientific American provides details about why, at this point of the pandemic, serology tests are more epidemiological tools than reliable ways for passing someone as being of no risk (spoiler alert: it is much more than just the strength and duration of immunity not being known)... not that I can't imagine some applying the test for the latter reason but...

This from NPR provides a good general review of the tests used now and the potential for a quicker diagnostic test that checks for infection/contagiousness by looking for specific antigens (proteins on the viral surface).

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