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  1. #31
    sxmbeachlover is offline
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    Re: Orthography Question

    There we go. Winners get a big red apple! Although, I'm sure some of us would prefer an Appletini!!!

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    Re: Orthography Question

    Btw, returning to original subject of OP (moi ) the process of turning L’Orient into Lorient is called agglutination. Same word French and English.
    It means glueing disparate parts into one.
    I discovered this thanks to Kevin’s Licorne post in resto section.
    The etymology of Licorne (unicorn) suggests it came from the agglutination of the Latin “unicorno” with the article “L”. Just like Lorient.
    Voilà.
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    Re: Orthography Question

    Well look at that! Perfect timing.
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    Thanks, Cass. I sure hope I can retain this knowledge; You never know...I may find myself on Jeopardy one day.
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    Re: Orthography Question

    Quote Originally Posted by cassidain View Post
    Btw, returning to original subject of OP (moi ) the process of turning L’Orient into Lorient is called agglutination. Same word French and English.
    It means glueing disparate parts into one.
    I discovered this thanks to Kevin’s Licorne post in resto section.
    The etymology of Licorne (unicorn) suggests it came from the agglutination of the Latin “unicorno” with the article “L”. Just like Lorient.
    Voilà.
    Great information, Hank . . . I love language. Not sure, however, that I’ll remember it as there probably aren’t too many occasions to use it!

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    cassidain is offline
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    Re: Orthography Question

    Quote Originally Posted by cec1 View Post
    . . . I love language.
    Part of the reason you’re the premier raconteur on the forum, I’m sure
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    Re: Orthography Question

    Quote Originally Posted by cassidain View Post
    the process of turning L’Orient into Lorient is called agglutination.
    Now I’m going to be giving a suspicious look to every word which starts with ‘l’, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinS View Post
    Now I’m going to be giving a suspicious look to every word which starts with ‘l’, LOL.

    Agglutination en français



    • Lille : le nom de la ville provient de l'agglutination de l'isle. De même en flamand la ville se nomme Rijsel, qui provient de l'agglutination de ter ijs(s)el5.
    • Lorient : le nom de la ville provient de l'agglutination de l'orient5.
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    pascaleschmidt is online now
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    Re: Orthography Question

    Moet pronounced like une mouette... je suis fatiguee apres tout ca....

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    Re: Orthography Question

    One learns something every day! Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pascaleschmidt View Post
    Moet pronounced like une mouette... je suis fatiguee apres tout ca....
    I was told by a Dutchman yesterday that the original Dutch pronunciation would have been more like MOOT....
    but you should hear how he says Van Gogh!

  12. #42
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    Re: Orthography Question

    Van Goch?
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    pascaleschmidt is online now
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    Re: Orthography Question

    Quote Originally Posted by elgreaux View Post
    I was told by a Dutchman yesterday that the original Dutch pronunciation would have been more like MOOT....
    but you should hear how he says Van Gogh!
    that does not sound great.... in the whole scheme of things chin chin!!!

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    Re: Orthography Question

    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    How about Colombier (Columbier)?
    Speaking from experience, a word of warning, "Don't mess with the spelling Guru"!
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    Jim A is offline
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    Re: Orthography Question

    Unlike Italian, French pronunciations are tough for me. We sat on the Metro in Paris (or should I say "Paree") and tried to pronounce each stop as we approached. I literally got every single one wrong.

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