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Thread: Ticket for parking in Flamands

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    didier is offline
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    Ticket for parking in Flamands

    I just pulled a parking ticket off my windshield for parking. I have been parking in the same place since 2003 on the side of the road just past where I live. looks like I was not singled out, there are cars all the way down on the right side of the highway towards petite anse with parking tickets on their windshields. no warnings, must be a new or old law that is being enforced perhaps. yikes. 35 euros.

    tourists were not excluded either, some of the tourists may still be at the beach.

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    elgreaux is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    That's terrible, especially as there is no place to park if you go to the beach, and Rosemond's parents' house has no driveway or parking area, so everyone parks on the street...
    yikes!

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    didier is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    ellen, I wonder how we could find out what is going on? any suggestions?

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    didier is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    my ticket dda went down to the police station and they said that the police gave out parking tickets today to cheval blanc employees that were parking on the side of the road near the hotel, so cheval blanc said you can't give us parking tickets unless you go all the way down the street all the way to the end of this road and give everyone parking tickets. not sure what will happen now. will corossol be next? dda asked the police that question, the policeman just shook his head and said that its not his idea that this happened with the tickets.

    parking ticket.pdf

    parking 2.pdf

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    andynap is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Unfortunately I was the recipient of a parking ticket for not showing my placard in a commercial zone. Paying it was a 2 step different building operation. Took about 1 hour.


    Andy

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    Jeanne is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    We got a 135 Euro parking ticket on far side of Gustavia last week. We took the spot of someone who left. The high price was due to parking partially on the sidewalk. I’m paranoid now every time we park. Wish there was a guide to the parking problem, I’ve been seeing tickets everywhere!

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    cec1 is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Diana . . . the same thing has been going on in Lurin -- first it was people parked on side of the road near Form Fitness gym, and more recently it has been ticketing of people parked outside of Santa Fe (which is why the restaurant now has a Valet at lunch).

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    Hawke is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by cec1 View Post
    Diana . . . the same thing has been going on in Lurin -- first it was people parked on side of the road near Form Fitness gym, and more recently it has been ticketing of people parked outside of Santa Fe (which is why the restaurant now has a Valet at lunch).
    Dennis; Do you feel that the tickets need to be written to fix a problem. I have never felt that Flamand or Santa Fe created a hazard.

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    dadto6 is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Is it possible the new ticketing policy is for revenue generation? I work in Washington DC, a parking ticket Hell.

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    Hawke is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by dadto6 View Post
    Is it possible the new ticketing policy is for revenue generation? I work in Washington DC, a parking ticket Hell.
    That is true. My son was stationed there. The difference is that there are many more choices in DC. St Barts parking is a supply and demand issue. We have parked on the sidewalk over all the Sante Fe venues. From Mexican to now. Never thought it would become an issue.

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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanne View Post
    We got a 135 Euro parking ticket on far side of Gustavia last week. We took the spot of someone who left. The high price was due to parking partially on the sidewalk. I’m paranoid now every time we park. Wish there was a guide to the parking problem, I’ve been seeing tickets everywhere!
    Same thing happened to us last May...Parked half on curb across from Orega in Gustavia after someone pulled out..135 euros and 2 different municipal buildings later we were told our parking choice was a hazard limiting access to emergency vehicles if need be..
    Made sense to us...but they do need to post better signs
    Steve and Aimee

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    Hawke is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    St. Barts is our favorite destination. I think many others feel the same. Maybe residents feel there are too many visitors and this is a way of discouraging tourism? We are coming for three weeks with friends that were with us a few years ago. I'm hoping that our love of St. Barts doesn't wain.

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    NancySC is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    During our 3 weeks in May this year we noticed all the new bollards, so that was the handwriting on the wall. Difficult parking made moreso now with the hefty fines & those bollards. I 'get it,' but if islanders & visitors have no place/s to safely park, then what...another island that is not as attractive to us as SBH has been for 25+ years ??? And to some degree our interest has waned.

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    didier is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    this is crazy, we have no other place to park and the road is definitely wide enough to park where the residents park. I cannot pay 35 euros to park each day, so perhaps the police will decide that giving out parking tickets to residents that have been parking in the same spaces for years is a bad idea. its a bad idea for the tourists to be ticketed also, do we need to lose tourists on the island? I think not.

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    KevinS is online now
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Donít overthink this. Somebody bitched about Cheval Blanc employees parking, so the Police ticketed. Cheval Blanc slapped back, so the Police ticketed everyone. Itís not revenue generation, itís a neighborhood dispute.

    The bigger issue is Island-wide, and includes both parking and housing. Drive by the free beach parking lot in St Jean at 03:00 and tell me how many cars are parked there - they arenít parked there by people who are at the beach. Look at the ads in Le News and online by people, some long-time residents, who are practically begging for housing, while hundreds of housing units are occupied by hotel employees. The underlying issue is huge.

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    didier is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    they gave ellen's brother in law a ticket, its flapping in the breeze. he's in guadeloupe helping rosemond recover and he gets a ticket for parking where he has always parked. something very wrong here. no warnings!

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    elgreaux is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by didier View Post
    they gave ellen's brother in law a ticket, its flapping in the breeze. he's in guadeloupe helping rosemond recover and he gets a ticket for parking where he has always parked. something very wrong here. no warnings!
    OH NO....!

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    jima1742 is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Kevin,

    I completely agree on all counts. We are staying at Colony Club and we have, in or first week here, had 4 cars park in our "Private Parking Space". It has gotten so bad that St Barts Properties went out and purchased an orange cone and delivered it to us to help to secure our parking space.

    The parking and the housing issues will not go away by themselves................

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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Further to Kevin's point, I went to the Marche U this morning. There was no traffic, so I was there well before they were to open at 8H00. The was one couple waiting for the store to open, but there were about 30 cars parked in the lot. Does that seem odd to anyone else ????????????????

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    elgreaux is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by jima1742 View Post
    Further to Kevin's point, I went to the Marche U this morning. There was no traffic, so I was there well before they were to open at 8H00. The was one couple waiting for the store to open, but there were about 30 cars parked in the lot. Does that seem odd to anyone else ????????????????
    people leave their cars there when they go away sometimes as there is only very short term parking at the airport, and there are also other shops in that shopping center as well as Le Jardin which is open for breakfast so some staff might park there as well.... but clearly there are way tooooo many cars on the island and it will only get worse when Eden Roc and Carl Gustav open, then Guanahani next year...

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    KeithJake is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by dadto6 View Post
    Is it possible the new ticketing policy is for revenue generation? I work in Washington DC, a parking ticket Hell.
    So true. I received a ticket within ONE MINUTE of it expiring and I was jogging to get there in time so, 1 minute more. THE ONLY PERSON on the street in any direction was me!

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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    We received a 135 euro ticket on our last visit for parking in Gustavia-far side- where we have always parked. Many cars were parked and only rentals had tickets. At the police station, they were not helpful in their explanation of the ticket. Haven’t been back since. The traffic and parking were a pain on that trip.

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    didier is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    they gave a ticket to the person who has two children on the police force here. guess they did not want to leave anyone out. I believe this road is grandfathered in since everyone has been parking on the side of the road since the road was built and since no signs posted , can they really enforce this? there are a lot of new police personnel, perhaps they just did not know?

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    andynap is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    No signs posted? How do you contest this?


    Andy

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    Hawke is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Nantucket has hundreds of people going to work on the ferries each morning. Many leave work vehicles on the Nantucket side as close to the terminal as possible. Each time anyone finds a free spot within walking distance a no parking sign will appear. Same thing on the Hyannis side.

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    didier is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    No signs posted? How do you contest this?
    not sure Andy, but they have stirred up a real hornets nest with the residents here.

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    stbartshopper is online now
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    They did have a sign across from Orega etc, by the big anchor that permitted parking with two wheels on the sidewalk? I take it the sign is gone?

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    sxmbeachlover is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Hmmm, guess we will just stay at our villa pool and eat in every night? If they are giving out 135 euro parking tickets in Gustavia, this will be bad for the businesses.

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    Hawke is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by sxmbeachlover View Post
    Hmmm, guess we will just stay at our villa pool and eat in every night? If they are giving out 135 euro parking tickets in Gustavia, this will be bad for the businesses.
    So true. That is the part that makes no sense. Tourism should matter to the people on St. Barts.

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    andynap is offline
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    Re: Ticket for parking in Flamands

    Quote Originally Posted by didier View Post
    not sure Andy, but they have stirred up a real hornets nest with the residents here.
    What if you refuse to pay? What’s the next step.


    Andy

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