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    EddyG is offline
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    Beach Conditions

    My favorite beaches have lots of sand and NOT lots of people. Today, Sunday, at Saline there were less than 20 on the entire beach. A few days ago there were only 3 of us on Gouveneur. Maybe 5 on St. Jean. No parking problems. The tile entrance signs are gone for now.

    Here are photos of Gouveneur. It seems like the sand level is way down, but the width is about the same. The far half has rocks exposed, but the first half does not.

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    The Russian lost his privacy for now.

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    The water has been very nice.

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    Here's Saline. Also lost a lot of sand depth, but just as wide. The large palm trees planted on the trail in are all gone.

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    I imagine Saline is like it may have been 50 years ago before a lot of visitors. It still is a special place to enjoy the sea,

    St. Jean has no businesses open that I could see on the beach, but the sand area is as good as ever. Just BOYB.

    This first one is from where La Plage WAS.

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    This is where Niki was - the beach is still there.

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    This was La Plage.

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    More on other beaches later. It has been a long time since you could find empty beautiful beaches on St. Barth. Just no cold rose'.

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    Eve is offline
    SBH Insider Joined: Jun 2008 Boston Posts: 8,024

    Re: Beach Conditions

    Progress. Evidently the path is clear?

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    Jim Kelly-Evans is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    like a clean slate...to build on
    "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy." - Dorothy Parker

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    Maya is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Brilliant pictures, thank you.....Eden Roc lost the boat which was tied up Nikki's side..or did they remove it before the storm?

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    elgreaux is offline
    SBH Insider Joined: May 2003 Saint Barth Posts: 10,199

    Re: Beach Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly-Evans View Post
    like a clean slate...to build on
    Wouldn't it be nicer not to build on the beaches... :)

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    Canuck is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Those are awesome pictures! Thanks for posting them as it gives us a real understanding of the current conditions. Pictures like this and others will help us a lot when we need to finalize our travel plans for April. Still a bit nervous about flying into SXM however. We will for sure be coming only with carry on!

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    NancySC is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Thank you for all the photos. Look forward to more. Aren't Nikki & La Plage captioned in reverse ?

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    EddyG is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Here is Lorient - a beautiful beach, just no surf shack. The white tent is where it was. Now you can see the church from the beach.

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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Beautiful! Our favorite beach--we have stayed in the villa next to the Surf Shack (white fences) for 30 years--truly our home away from home.
    Can't wait to return in March!

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    Max1030 is offline
    SBH Member Joined: Nov 2012 Florida Posts: 33

    Re: Beach Conditions

    We have been here for a week and it is truly magical without all the loud tourist spots. Absolutely adore how quiet the island has been.

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    Max1030 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Canuck View Post
    Those are awesome pictures! Thanks for posting them as it gives us a real understanding of the current conditions. Pictures like this and others will help us a lot when we need to finalize our travel plans for April. Still a bit nervous about flying into SXM however. We will for sure be coming only with carry on!
    0 issues flying into SXM with 4 checked bags. St Barth Commuter was first class in service. We felt like VIP's! Amazingly efficient in guiding us thru the "new al fresco airport.

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    tim is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Max, what time was your A/A flight scheduled to arrive in SXM? And what was the actual arrival time?

    Thanks.
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    Eve is offline
    SBH Insider Joined: Jun 2008 Boston Posts: 8,024

    Re: Beach Conditions

    We go the last week of August every year, and it is this quiet. The photos are captioned correctly. So much for the seclusion of Les Mouettes

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    Max1030 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by tim View Post
    Max, what time was your A/A flight scheduled to arrive in SXM? And what was the actual arrival time?

    Thanks.
    We arrived 20 minutes earlier than scheduled. American Airlines out of MIA

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    Max1030 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Eve View Post
    We go the last week of August every year, and it is this quiet. The photos are captioned correctly. So much for the seclusion of Les Mouettes
    We've spent the entire month of August on St Barth before and although it is quiet it is nothing like right now.

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    Max1030 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by elgreaux View Post
    Wouldn't it be nicer not to build on the beaches... :)
    100% agreed, all beaches should be left in their natural state. One of the many reason we love St Barth is because of Saline and Colombier. How we hope they stay undeveloped forever.

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    dadto6 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Max, our trips overlapped, we just departed yesterday afternoon. I could not agree more, quiet was nice and not as in August. On our departing Tradewind flight, Anita and I were two of three total on the plane, same as day we arrived. In 10-trips, can not recall so few tourists.

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    EddyG is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    I was at Saline today around noon and I was the ONLY person on the beach. When I left there were 5 of us.

    To confirm a previous question, here is Niki Beach as of today.

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    Camp David:

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    Eden Rock:

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    More of St. Jean Beach:

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    Only one business open on the entire beach - Carib Waterplay. 6 loungest to rent for 15 euros - no takers today.

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    And the other end:

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    amyb is online now
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Ed, your pictures really show how much was lost in the storms. They hurt my heart. I can just imagine how horrible the scenes were when the structural debris and destroyed plantings covered the sand!
    Remember Yesterday, Dream About Tomorrow, But Live Today.

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    Reed is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by amyb View Post
    Ed, your pictures really show how much was lost in the storms. They hurt my heart. I can just imagine how horrible the scenes were when the structural debris and destroyed plantings covered the sand!

    I was just thinking the same thing Amy. My old daily walking track. Back in the day it was always a pleasure to wave to JC as we touched the rock at ER to mark the end of a beach lap. We would then make our turn around to go back and walk to the other side (prior to the fence) where we would find another marker signaling the end of a lap. So many people met over the years and friends made and celebrations had on that beach. It is with a heavy heart that I am reflecting on those memories. Truly stunning photos Ed.
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    Août is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Eddy...as heartbreaking as those pictures are, they certainly do depict the stark reality of the situation and how much conscious effort it will take to recover...and yet there is beauty in each shot that you took which does give one hope. Have you checked out Flamands yet?

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    andynap is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    I knew Camp David took a big hit. Those pictures are scary.


    Andy

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    chris83 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    I knew Camp David took a big hit. Those pictures are scary.
    It would be interesting to know how many of those houses sustained damage to the structure.
    Expect lots of fences on beaches for a few years.
    Once again,the rebuilding debate is crucial.Creating an architecture able to sustain a cat 5 hurricane on a beach.
    The legendary "depassé de toiture" also works perfectly with waves and water

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    JB is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Thanks Ed.

    I have been archiving post Irma photos 1-month, 2-months, etc.
    Starting to see a lot more green!

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    EddyG is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    The beach in St. Jean is very wide and this is the first time I was able to walk from Camp David past the runway all along the beach. I saw less than 10 people the entire walk. The parking area across from Eden Rock was empty.

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    Max1030 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by dadto6 View Post
    Max, our trips overlapped, we just departed yesterday afternoon. I could not agree more, quiet was nice and not as in August. On our departing Tradewind flight, Anita and I were two of three total on the plane, same as day we arrived. In 10-trips, can not recall so few tourists.
    So good to hear others were brave enough to make the trip down and help support the local economy!
    I honestly thought we were one of the only tourists on the island!

    We have felt very much welcomed everywhere we have gone. The island wants us back

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    dadto6 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Regarding beaches, they all are clean of debris in and out of water. Kudos to all the volunteers for their hard efforts for our pleasures.

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    EddyG is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    There seems to be lots of rocks that washed up along the Grand Fond Road- and fill added. Looks like the road is being widened the entire Grand Fond length with about 1/2 completed.

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    Toiny has more sand and the beach shacks are all gone.

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    Here's the beach chair with the most seclusion today.

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    Grand Cul de Sac may have been hit the hardest. Nothing is open now and there are big rebuild projects.

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    Marigot sans palm trees.

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    Tomorrow the Flamands conditions.

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    dadto6 is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Hello Eddy,
    Brilliant minds think alike. Interesting how similar our pictures are of damages at Le Barthelemy.
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    bkeats is offline
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    Re: Beach Conditions

    Breaks my heart to see the pictures of La Gloriette. Everything is either smashed up or gone. I hope it gets rebuilt but I can understand how hard it must be on everyone who lost their businesses or homes.

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