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    AdamZ is offline
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    Min Connection Time

    Hello everyone-

    I should know the answer to this, but thought I would ask-

    What is the absolute minimum connection time you would allow on the return flight to SXM from SBH? We are heading back to SBH for 10 nights arriving on 3/19, but having a tough time with a return flight on 3/29. Prefer to avoid the ferry. Thanks for for any advice!

    AdamZ

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    stbartshopper is offline
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    We use to allow 90 minutes but now unless you are flying United you have to recheck your bags in SXM, and there can be very long lines, especially on Saturdays. We suggest unfortunately 3 hours. However if you are flying American there is a check in counter just off the baggage claim area where one checks in to WinAir and St. Barth Commuter which can save you from the long lines in the main terminal.

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    andynap is offline
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    I'm assuming you have checked luggage? What airline are you flying home?


    Andy

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    marybeth is online now
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    Our last two return experiences with Winair have caused us to allow 2-3 hours to connect on the way home. YMMV, but in November we were lucky to make our flight with just under 2 hours transfer time.

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    AdamZ is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    I'm assuming you have checked luggage? What airline are you flying home?
    We are flying AA, and do not check luggage. In the past we usu give about 2 hours, and have never had a problem. For this trip though- the AM flights from SBH to SXM are full, and the remaining option leaves about an hour of connection time.

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    andynap is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamZ View Post
    We are flying AA, and do not check luggage. In the past we usu give about 2 hours, and have never had a problem. For this trip though- the AM flights from SBH to SXM are full, and the remaining option leaves about an hour of connection time.
    Even if you print your boarding passes I don't think 1 hour is enough.


    Andy

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    elgreaux is offline
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    An hour doesn't leave any time for a plane leaving St Barth late or an unexpected shutting of the transit security gate... I don't think I'd chance it...

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    MrBart is offline
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    Flying AA back in April, AA moved out departure back by 1+ hours which gave us only on hour to transfer at Sxm, no checked baggage, we felt that it was way too close for comfort and changed our winair flights to an earlier departure. We now have 2.5 hours to make the connection at Sxm - one less worry/concern.

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    GramChop is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBart View Post
    Flying AA back in April, AA moved out departure back by 1+ hours which gave us only on hour to transfer at Sxm, no checked baggage, we felt that it was way too close for comfort and changed our winair flights to an earlier departure. We now have 2.5 hours to make the connection at Sxm - one less worry/concern.
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    NorCalCpl is offline
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    United moved back our arrival at SXM causing us to miss our connection to SBH. I called to see what could be done and the answer was no and no refund - tough luck! So I had to redo our Winair flights and was lucky to change that for 6 people!
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    bto is offline
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    I wouldn't chance it with only an hour, Adam. The ferry going over to SXM isn't bad at all. Are you trying to book WinAir or SBC?

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    islander is offline
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    Recommended transit times on the way back (SBH SXM):

    If you're on a charter flight, 1 hour 30 min. If you're on a scheduled flight, 2 hours min.

    The VIP Service could help reducing the above by approx. 15 minutes: pre-check-in and agent escort through the terminal (skipping lines).

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    AdamZ is offline
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    Thank you- I did trade emails with premium iv, and they concurred that not enough time even with their assistance. Ferry is an option, but not our first choice. So, any suggestions for a charter? I know SB Commuter has a charter available- anyone else? Thanks again!


    Quote Originally Posted by islander View Post
    Recommended transit times on the way back (SBH SXM):

    If you're on a charter flight, 1 hour 30 min. If you're on a scheduled flight, 2 hours min.

    The VIP Service could help reducing the above by approx. 15 minutes: pre-check-in and agent escort through the terminal (skipping lines).

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    andynap is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamZ View Post
    Thank you- I did trade emails with premium iv, and they concurred that not enough time even with their assistance. Ferry is an option, but not our first choice. So, any suggestions for a charter? I know SB Commuter has a charter available- anyone else? Thanks again!
    There are seats from SBH to Grand Case at 7:30 and 8:30 AM on St Barth Commuter. Take a cab from the airport to Grand Case village or Marigot and have breakfast. Get a cab to the airport and wait in the Executive Lounge- free coffee, pastries, wifi.


    Andy

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    AdamZ is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamZ View Post
    Hello everyone-

    I should know the answer to this, but thought I would ask-

    What is the absolute minimum connection time you would allow on the return flight to SXM from SBH? We are heading back to SBH for 10 nights arriving on 3/19, but having a tough time with a return flight on 3/29. Prefer to avoid the ferry. Thanks for for any advice!

    AdamZ

    Problem solved! I'm taking the noon on SB Commuter, while my wife and daughter are on the 12:10 Win Air. Hadn't crossed my mind to check availability of fewer than 3 seats. Thanks again to everyone for their suggestions and advice! Excited to be returning 3/19 to 3/29.

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    tim is offline
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    Congratulations! Glad it worked out for you.
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    GramChop is offline
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    Now you can relax and just enjoy the countdown, Adam. Glad it all worked out for y'all!
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    leep75 is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    It's been two years since our last trip to SBH, this year we are scheduled to arrive on June 18th. In the past, we've always had plenty of time between our flight landing at SXM and leaving for SBH, or have had the luxury of taking a USAir w/Winair connection so our bag was checked all the way to SBH. This year AA has changed my flight a couple times, we now arrive at 1:36 PM and my SB Commuter flight is scheduled to leave at 3:15. Normally we check 1 bag for the both of us. I assume I will have time to gather that bag, go through security and re-check the bag to SBH....Our other option is to each use a small roller and simply carry on. I think we can probably do that, however, we are classic over packers and have never stayed a full week anywhere without a full checked bag. Thoughts on what will turn out to be basically a 1 1/2 hour connection in the summer? Do we have time to check or should I just "rough it" and carry on and skip the checked bag....I'm leaning that way.

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    Re: Min Connection Time

    Quote Originally Posted by leep75 View Post
    It's been two years since our last trip to SBH, this year we are scheduled to arrive on June 18th. In the past, we've always had plenty of time between our flight landing at SXM and leaving for SBH, or have had the luxury of taking a USAir w/Winair connection so our bag was checked all the way to SBH. This year AA has changed my flight a couple times, we now arrive at 1:36 PM and my SB Commuter flight is scheduled to leave at 3:15. Normally we check 1 bag for the both of us. I assume I will have time to gather that bag, go through security and re-check the bag to SBH....Our other option is to each use a small roller and simply carry on. I think we can probably do that, however, we are classic over packers and have never stayed a full week anywhere without a full checked bag. Thoughts on what will turn out to be basically a 1 1/2 hour connection in the summer? Do we have time to check or should I just "rough it" and carry on and skip the checked bag....I'm leaning that way.
    Assuming your flight is on time, and if you have to take the bus expect to get into the terminal at 2. You never know. If I'm that tight on time and have checked bags I use Premium IV or the like.


    Andy

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    phil62 is online now
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    As long as your AA flight is on time, you should be fine, even with the checked bag. Carry-on would pretty much remove all of the stress, even if your AA flight is a bit late. Another option is to use a service like PremiumIV to handle your arrival. That would cost a few bucks but certainly give you peace of mind.

    Phil

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    andynap is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    LOL


    Andy

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    BBT is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    Quote Originally Posted by phil62 View Post
    As long as your AA flight is on time, you should be fine, even with the checked bag. Carry-on would pretty much remove all of the stress, even if your AA flight is a bit late. Another option is to use a service like PremiumIV to handle your arrival. That would cost a few bucks but certainly give you peace of mind.

    Phil
    we landed on the delta 1:45 and had no problem making the 2:00 SBC on Sunday.
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    leep75 is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    Quote Originally Posted by BBT View Post
    we landed on the delta 1:45 and had no problem making the 2:00 SBC on Sunday.

    Carry on only I assume?

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    BBT is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    Yes always
    "St. Bart's is Crack for Vacations." Credit given to EDW

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    islander is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    Quote Originally Posted by BBT View Post
    we landed on the delta 1:45 and had no problem making the 2:00 SBC on Sunday.
    As a risk taker, you were simply lucky. Nobody in his/her right mind should follow that example as it's plain ridiculous.

    Gambling is one thing, long term and careful travel planning is another.

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    BBT is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    Quote Originally Posted by islander View Post
    As a risk taker, you were simply lucky. Nobody in his/her right mind should follow that example as it's plain ridiculous.

    Gambling is one thing, long term and careful travel planning is another.
    You missed the point, I never said the 2 was my scheduled flight. I said I made the 2, SBC was kind enough to put us on the earlier flight. The point is without bags it takes no time to go from arrival to departure. I follow a rule, always take the next available flight it has saved me numerous times.
    "St. Bart's is Crack for Vacations." Credit given to EDW

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    islander is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    Unless you're chartering, planning an SXM connection should always be of 1 hour min TO SBH and 2 hours min FROM SBH.

    Carry-ons or checked-in bags. Anything less is gambling.

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    cassidain is online now
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    I forget the minimum pre-flight arrival time at SBH airport. Assuming I picked up boarding passes earlier in the morning. And I forget, is it possible to get Delta boarding passes on Saint-Barth?
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    KevinS is online now
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    They usually tell me 40 minutes, and I usually tell them that I'll be upstairs if they want to leave early.

    I can't speak to the DL boarding passes.

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    elgreaux is offline
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    Re: Min Connection Time

    Quote Originally Posted by cassidain View Post
    I forget the minimum pre-flight arrival time at SBH airport. Assuming I picked up boarding passes earlier in the morning. And I forget, is it possible to get Delta boarding passes on Saint-Barth?
    If you have a printer you can get any kind of boarding passes you want in St Barth.. come on over the day before, I'll print them for you....

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