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    Eve is offline
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    Runway fence going up?

    Webcam shows large stakes at the end of the runway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve View Post
    Webcam shows large stakes at the end of the runway
    avec des fils de fer barbelés ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve View Post
    Webcam shows large stakes at the end of the runway
    As does Oubli's Facebook page.

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    As long as it goes no further than the water line

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    Robert Frost penned GOOD FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

    In this instance, though I do understand the need, I think 'not so much'. IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve View Post
    As long as it goes no further than the water line
    As what can be done if it does??


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    Blame cruise ships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEK View Post
    Blame cruise ships.
    Ah ha- I knew they were good for something. What the fence will do is cut the beach off and the walkers will have to swim around it.


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    It seems closing off the beach is against French law, so I suspect this will be contested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    As what can be done if it does??
    So walkers can walk around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEK View Post
    It seems closing off the beach is against French law, so I suspect this will be contested.
    Interesting as to whether the beach will be actually closed or just divided? And who will have the standing to complain??


    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    As what can be done if it does??
    Can I bring my chainsaw in my carryon?
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    I'm surprised that the airport didn't put a warning system in after all these years of close calls and "hits" on walkers. Sort of like a siren or flashing lights or bell when a plane is approaching. Or is noise a no no too.


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    This fence or barrier will catch all sorts of weed and other trash. It will become an eyesore and rapidly be removed.
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    Charlie has seen this stuff come and go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    I'm surprised that the airport didn't put a warning system in after all these years of close calls and "hits" on walkers. Sort of like a siren or flashing lights or bell when a plane is approaching. Or is noise a no no too.
    Since all of those struck or nearly struck were taking a photo I guess the siren would be the alert to get into position for the shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasBidd View Post
    This fence or barrier will catch all sorts of weed and other trash. It will become an eyesore and rapidly be removed.
    I thought the weed was found in the Gazebo?
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    It doesn't need a fence- just wires strung from pole to pole. Shouldn't catch too much flotsam.


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    I can't believe this is actually happening..... What a disgrace...

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    I would think that the fence would present an aviation hazard . . . no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cec1 View Post
    I would think that the fence would present an aviation hazard . . . no?
    ..Even if they put a short fence, say 3-4' across the beach end of the approach, the runway is a bit higher than that. If you were that low, you better add power quick and climb up to the runway....

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    If the authorities really want to address the problem: (and I'm not discussing the damage on the landscape here)

    They just need to build a fence at the end of the runway, and not accross the beach or even the water.
    Just like in SXM. Make it 6 feet high and this is the end of the problems.

    Aircraft performance requirements is to clear 50 foot obstacles at runway end for landing and take off. So 6 feet is safe enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve View Post
    Webcam shows large stakes at the end of the runway
    Why not put up an invisible fence and make visitors wear an electronic collar? I mean, really...don't people know where the runway is?!?!?!?! Need the same thing at the round-about I guess. Geeeeeez.
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    Very interesting to know the 50 foot clearance rule for take-offs and landings. Thanks!

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    Of course, as we know, just because the 50' requirement of the aircraft performance is there, a 28 approach is rarely flown that high, and therin lies the problem. Islanders solution of a fence at the end, even if you were to place it 20' from the end would force the planes in and out at a higher altitude....and leave the beach access unobstructed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    Why not put up an invisible fence and make visitors wear an electronic collar? I mean, really...don't people know where the runway is?!?!?!?! Need the same thing at the round-about I guess. Geeeeeez.
    Tan lines. The collar would destroy the full body tan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islander View Post
    If the authorities really want to address the problem: (and I'm not discussing the damage on the landscape here)

    They just need to build a fence at the end of the runway, and not accross the beach or even the water.
    Just like in SXM. Make it 6 feet high and this is the end of the problems.

    Aircraft performance requirements is to clear 50 foot obstacles at runway end for landing and take off. So 6 feet is safe enough.
    Based on history that fence would be dragged into the Baie about once every few years.
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