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  1. #1
    KevinS is offline
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    Buying Gas After Hours

    It is only possible to buy gas after hours (nights, holidays, and Sundays) if you have a true Chip and Pin credit card.

    Typical American credit cards have a mag strip, and no chip. They will not work after hours.

    Some American credit cards have a chip, but no PIN. These are known as Chip and Signature cards. They will not work after hours.

    A very few American credit cards have a chip and a PIN for transactions. These are known as Chip and PIN cards. These are the only US credit cards that WILL work after hours.

    The above applies to MasterCard and Visa cards. Amex is not accepted at the gas station.

    The procedure to buy gas after hours is as follows:

    1) Insert your Chip and Pin card into the card reader. Leave it there. In the US, gas pump card readers typically require a quick in-and-out dip. Chip and Pin card readers are different, and require that the card stay in the reader until the validation process is complete.

    2) When prompted, enter your 4-digit PIN, and then V (for Valider, or Validate)

    3) When instructed to do so, remove your card.

    4) Pump your gas

    5) Take your receipt


    If you see this message:

    Declined
    Cancelled Transact.
    Remove Card

    Your card is probably a Chip and Signature card, not a Chip and Pin card, and cannot be accepted.



    If you see this message:

    Carte Arrachee
    Piste Non Lue
    Transaction Annulee

    Go back and read #1 above. You dipped your card, rather than leaving it in the card reader until validation was completed. The message reads Card Torn (or pulled from the reader) Track Not Read, Transaction Cancelled.
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  2. #2
    KevinS is offline
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    Hmm. The images aren't where I expected them to be.

  3. #3
    JEK is offline
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    I am ready to test

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  4. #4
    KevinS is offline
    Senior Insider Joined: Jul 2003 Boston Posts: 17,872
    I tested my recently received Citi AAdvantage Chip and Signature card earlier tonight. The test failed. The "declined" image was from that attempt.

    Your USAA card, IIRC, is a true Chip and Pin card, as is my grandfathered Diners card. It will work just fine, as long as you remember to let it sit in the card reader through the entire validation process.

  5. #5
    phil62 is offline
    SBH Insider Joined: Feb 2005 Glen Cove, NY Posts: 5,807
    Thanks Kevin, this is good info. Like you, I also have a Chip and Pin Diners Club card, but had to ask a local to help me out when I couldn't understand the instructions. I reciprocated by paying for him to fill his scooter.

    I am going to print this out and put it in my SBH file.

    Phil

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    GramChop is offline
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    If you don't have said chip and pin card, make sure Ellen and Rosemond are nearby! Thanks, again, guys!!!
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  7. #7
    KevinS is offline
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    Phil,

    The instructions are partially in French, and partially in English, perhaps based on the issuing country of the card. The "V" for Valider/Validate isn't mentioned in either language. I take it as one of those things that "everybody knows" - except for those of us from the US who are just joining the Chip and Pin world.

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    SherylB is offline
    SBH Insider Joined: May 2010 Toronto ON Posts: 814
    Our Canadian Chip and PIN card worked like a charm this past trip. Rob helped someone out with a US Chip card but no PIN - he pumped his gas in exchange for cash. I've also found that wherever we used the Chip and PIN card that it recognized the card was issued in Canada and provided us with primarily English prompts. That happened not only at the gas station but at select restaurants and shops.

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    JEK is offline
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    MIke R is offline
    SBH Insider Joined: May 2003 Stinson Lake - New Hampshire & Provincetown - Cape Cod Posts: 52,002
    have had a BNP Carte Bleu since 2000.... never an issue
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    andynap is offline
    SBH Insider Joined: Oct 2002 Philadelphia Posts: 42,272
    Remember gas station hours. Never a problem.

  12. #12
    JEK is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    Remember gas station hours. Never a problem.

    Unless one of those French holidays pop up!
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    tim is offline
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    Kevin, excellent explanation
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