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Thread: I need expert advice!!Hubby has decided that we are going to Anguilla late this month instead of SBH. We have been to SBH at least 1x a year for the past 8. I have been to Anguilla on business one t

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    Tammwi is offline
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    Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    I need expert advice!!

    Hubby has decided that we are going to Anguilla late this month instead of SBH. We have been to SBH at least 1x a year for the past 8. I have been to Anguilla on business one time and thought the island was fine but nothing compared to SBH.
    Can someone give me some honest opinions about going to Anguilla? Should I shoot for a compromise and shoot for 5 days on AXA and 7 on SBH? Would the ferry be the best way to go between the two islands? I dont think my nerves could stand dealing with SXM airport more than 2x in one trip.

    Thanks!!!

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    onebigdawg53 is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    We've done the 50/50 Anguilla/SBH trip before and for us there was no comparison. It's SBH 100% and no Anguilla. If you take the winair flight from Anguilla to SBH or SBH to Anguilla the flights normally go via SXM but you don't get off the plane or go through all the SXM rigamarole - you stay on the plane, they load the other passengers and off you go. At least that's the way it was when we split our time between the two islands.

    Also, there have been posts in this forum over the past couple of years about a crime problem on Anguilla which to me is additional impetus to choose SBH over AXA.

    Just threaten your husband with divorce if he makes you go to Anguilla and he'll come around to seeing it your way LOL.

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    JimD is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Just got back from Anguilla last week and it was frankly fabulous, however, as you say it isn't St Barts, and I went to get away from St Barts.

    Anguilla is quiet, quiet, quiet...and frankly after day 4 I was starting to get twitchy, having kind of run out of things to see and do. Having finished my book, went out to buy another......no bookshop!

    You can honestly tell your husband from me, that 5 days is more than enough to appreciate Anguilla. 12 days you will be crawling the walls.

    I would strongly recommend the Koal Keel restaurant in the Valley. Expensive but worth it; However be aware that when they say they close at 9 it doesn't mean last service at 9....they turn off the lights.

    The Anguilla ferry is easy...jump in a taxi to Marigot, pay the man and get on the boat. On the way back it is amusingly official, with security and immigration checks, the ticket woman will have no change, and you will be chastised for ignoring the departure tax person...Taxi to Chesterfield Marina, jump on the Rapid, couldn't be easier!

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    GrimmReaper is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Okay, I'll try...we spent 4 days on Anguilla and 7 on St Barths back in March. Stayed at Rendezvous Bay on the water and loved it. Quiet part of the island and walked the beach each day down to the Cuisinart for lunch or dinner.if needed. A car is necessary and the rates were good with Avis costing $140 for the 4 days. Loved touring the island and visiting the beaches Shoal Bay and Smitty's... nice but crowded at times with day trippers.Good places to eat abound on the island so that is not aconcern We flew Winair from AXA to SXM and then on to SBH. Ferry is nice but can be rough going from SXM to SBH.Ferrry from SXM to AXA was an easy 30 minute ride. Place shuts down mid day..On SBH we stayed at Petit Morne and loved it...the pace on SBH moves at a faster clip as you know, with more to do and if you are in to shopping more of that than on Anguilla. While we like both, SBH remains our favorite but Anquilla is worth a try if you want some quiet time..maybe.

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    Dorocke is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Tammy~ I have also heard about an incident from friends of friends who went there. They were basically robbed while at their room by natives/men who had machetes and the young teenage daughter would have been sexually assaulted/raped had one of the other family members not unexpectedly shown up and startled them.

    Obviously, this is being shared for you to use as you will to your advantage to get out of the Anguilla part of the trip.
    Ashley (formerly "AHowell")

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    ashtangi is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    You know what to do girl....you're on this forum right?

    I was addicted to Anguilla before I found SBH, and like GrimmR, I always stayed at Rendezvous Bay. Once I found SBH, I have only been to Anguilla in combination with SBH.

    12 days is way too long, even when I loved it, 12 days would have been too long-simply due to the seclusion. Anguilla has changed alot in the past 10 years, where our hotel room didn't have keys then, now you are encouraged to lock up everything. Along with development projects came the crime.

    However, remember that crime is a possibilty everywhere. And the beaches in Anguilla are positively exquisite-they're almost neon. The people are wonderful, and I agree Koal Keel is worth it. I say GO-but in combination. I would hit Anguilla first to whet the appetite and then..........you gotta go to SBH. Also, we always fly.

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    MIke R is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    it happens on most of the islands....for those who dont know this, here's a news flash...for the most part...the majority of them dont like us...its the whole haves and have nots thing....I know, I know, how can they possibly not like us??...we re such a lovable, humble and low maintenance group of tourists...LOL...but its true....its even very bad on the USVI as well..having lived there myself, I saw much crime against mainland Americans ...most of which went unreported...and as St Barts attracts more and more money and more and more North Americans....it too will eventually attract those who want to exploit them....its their natural migratory path.....and if I read some of the recent posts correctly, I can conclude its already starting

    go to Anguilla for a few days..experience it for yourself...variety is the spice of life.
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    tim is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    I need expert advice!!

    Hubby has decided that we are going to Anguilla late this month instead of SBH. We have been to SBH at least 1x a year for the past 8. I have been to Anguilla on business one time and thought the island was fine but nothing compared to SBH.
    Can someone give me some honest opinions about going to Anguilla? Should I shoot for a compromise and shoot for 5 days on AXA and 7 on SBH? Would the ferry be the best way to go between the two islands? I dont think my nerves could stand dealing with SXM airport more than 2x in one trip.

    Thanks!!!
    Tammwi,

    I don't wish to overstate the obvious, but you sound like a highly intelligent woman. If it's your desire to go to St. Barth, I expect you know how to make that desire obvious.
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    KenNJ is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    As you may know, they are VERY different islands so a direct comparison is not really possible. It all depends on what you are looking for out of your vacation. Both islands have excellent restaurants, SBH has more but you'll also pay more. Both islands have beautiful beaches, but since AXA originates from a coral base rather than volcanic, it's sand is whiter and thus it's beaches are better with gorgeous turquoise hues. Obviously SBH is a whole lot more active/busy than AXA. So if you just want to unwind - AXA is the place. This holds for both road traffic and number of people at the beach. In terms of safety, I think right now SBH is a safer place to be - AXA is going thru some issues and crime (not just petty crime) has increased.

    My background - we have been consistent AXA visitors for years but this year - 1) our normal villa was not available for the whole time that we wanted, and 2) we were concerned about the increase in crime. We like and enjoy SBH but feel AXA is more what we enjoy which is the quiet beaches, good food, and just relaxing at our villa. Granted if the crime issue is not dealt with in AXA, we will probably not return, maybe we would grow to love SBH but to me it is really a little too hectic, not as private, and a bit too pretentious.

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    LMAC is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    About seven years ago we decided to split our time between St. Bart's (5 days) and Anguilla (4 days). After spending three slow, slow days on Anguilla with no place to shop, we took the ferry and went to St. Martin of all places for a little excitement. To say the least we have not gone back to the island. The people and restaurants were nice, but it was not our cup of tea.

    Lance
    Libby

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    Tammwi is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Tammwi,

    I don't wish to overstate the obvious, but you sound like a highly intelligent woman. If it's your desire to go to St. Barth, I expect you know how to make that desire obvious
    Tim,

    I do pride myself on being highly intelligent (I have paperwork to prove it) for a natural blonde. After reading your advice, I quickly sorted out the trip with a simple ultimatum. I told hubby that I was going to SBH on vacation and that if he wanted to (insert the obvious)on vacation and for the next six months that it would be in his best interest to join me in SBH! Hubby is calling WinAir in the morning and I am sure that you can spot us at dinner at Andy's on the night of the 18th!

    Why do I bother to try and reason with him when I can just threaten to cut him off??? Ahh...the power of persuasion!

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    MIke R is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    ah yes ... thanks for that lovely stroll down memory lane when I was married to wife #2.....gee I wonder why it didnt work out???....LOL


    you call it "persuasion"...I call it the ol VW...and there is a bottle of wine to anyone who can tell me what VW stands for...LOL
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    Tammwi is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Now Mike....was that really fair comparing me to wife #2???

    I did this in his best interest! Why would anyone turn down lots of good lovin in SBH???

    If I buy you a bottle of wine, will you tell me what VW means?

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    tim is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Volkswagon
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    MIke R is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Now Mike....was that really fair comparing me to wife #2???

    I did this in his best interest! Why would anyone turn down lots of good lovin in SBH???

    If I buy you a bottle of wine, will you tell me what VW means?
    Good Lord....based on the way you post ..forget about comparing you to wife #2...you might actually be her!!...is your name Susan>>??..LOL

    hey its all in good fun, and all that aside, wife number 2 is actually a pretty sweet kid who is now thankfully driving some other poor sap crazy....LOL


    you dont have to buy me a bottle of wine...I'll tell you eventually....its a pretty funny term, coined by a woman no less
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    tom is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    I suggest Tim withdraw the Volkswagon definition
    tom

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    Petri is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    We have been to Anguilla during most of our visits to the Caribbean.

    If you want to enjoy uncrowded and excellent beaches, Anguilla is better than St. Barth. I would rate St. Barth beaches average, not bad but nothing special.

    But for everything else, there's no comparison. The hotels in Anguilla are basicly luxury resorts, catered for people that never leave the resort. Some of the villas are ultra-luxury but the country is flat and has now views (vista?), the less you see the country, the better. The local culture is not about great food and enjoying life like the french do, so they have little interest in good food themselves -- this is visible in the restaurants and other places. You can eat fine but if you're looking for great food and evening, you'll just get overcharged. The tourist culture is unfortunately very american oriented.

    The only restaurant I can recommend in Anguilla is Trattoria Tramonto in Westend.

    When we go to Anguilla, we'll go just for the beaches. We stay at Paradise Cove, which is reasonably priced, well kept by the locals and has good location. We drive to different beaches every day and enjoy the sun. When we go to St. Barth after Anguilla, we'll spend more time "enjoying life", little bit of shopping, great food, just laying around in the villa or something else.

    I doubt we'll continue to visit Anguilla for that many years.

    PS. Travelling from AXA to SBH through SXM isn't a problem, you'll luggage will go direct and you can use the transit gate. You can also easily choose a time when there's very little activity at the airport. The problem is only when the big planes are coming or going, a mid-sized UA/AA jet can cause as much chaos as a fully loaded french or dutch 747 jumbo ;-)

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    Dennis is online now
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    you call it "persuasion"...I call it the ol VW...and there is a bottle of wine to anyone who can tell me what VW stands for...LOL

    Is the first word "Velvet"?

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    MIke R is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    no
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    Dennis is online now
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    you call it "persuasion"...I call it the ol VW...and there is a bottle of wine to anyone who can tell me what VW stands for...LOL
    ...and is the second word "Whip"?

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    Tammwi is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Velvet Whip....

    ....Runs to pack VW

    Mike and Tim, keep the ideas coming. I know have to compensate for my case of extreme persuasion.

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    Dennis is online now
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Velvet Whip....

    ....Runs to pack VW
    Ummm...it's a "carry on"...

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    MIke R is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    alright boys and girls...so as not to offend the word nazis or some unsuspecting readers who will think this is something related to St Barts...

    I will explain VW downstairs......
    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix

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    tim is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    ah yes ... thanks for that lovely stroll down memory lane when I was married to wife #2.....gee I wonder why it didnt work out???....LOL

    MikeR,

    With a menu of four wives from which to choose personality traits, I'll bet you could pick almost any attribute imaginable from that talented team. I'm just suprised, mon ami, that you haven't compared me to one of them. :-)
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    MIke R is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    3 Tim....3!!!!!!....there will never be a 4th.....bet the farm on that!!!...LOL
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    tim is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    3 Tim....3!!!!!!....there will never be a 4th.....bet the farm on that!!!...LOL
    MikeR,

    Sorry for the error. I over(under?) estimated you.
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    bushey is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    The same story about attempted robbery and assault has been circulating for years about Anguilla.

    The beaches are lovely, the people are friendly and there are lots of good options for reasonably-priced casual food. There are two great bakeries where you can get excellent baguettes, pastries and sandwiches. Otherwise, the food scene is pretty dismal for eating/cooking in. Restaurants for dinners are for the most part, quite good and fairly expensive, but no more expensive than anything on St. Barts. While it's true that there's "no shopping", that's one of the factors that draws us to the island. There are, however, many great galleries featuring local artists. There are also many lovely villas available for rent.

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    Cheri is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    We also liked Anguilla. However, probably wouldn't want to spend more than 3-5 days there. Because even though the beaches are better (hate to admit that), the restaurants pretty much just as good, and there are many lovely hotels, St. Barth just has that french culture and the charm where Anguilla does not. And the driving around is not the experience that it is in St. Barth....in fact the flat terrain and unfinished houses make it seem more than a little dreary after awhile.

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    MIke R is offline
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    Re: Don't make me go to Anguilla!!!!

    Because even though the beaches are better (hate to admit that)
    I can think of a half dozen islands whose beachs blow away St Barts....South Caicos and St John immediately come to mind as well as Anguilla...but as you said...its the soul of St Barts and the culture which is the draw....but I liked Anguilla as well...just for different reasons
    "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix

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