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Thread: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

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    KevinS is offline
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    SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    The curfew on St Barthélemy has been further tightened. It now runs from 8PM until 3AM. Restaurants must close by 8PM, and deliveries after that time are not permitted. The reason given is the situation at the SBH hospital, which now has 6 COVID patients.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    I bet a lot of the restaurants will close early for the season. depends on how long this new curfew lasts.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by didier View Post
    I bet a lot of the restaurants will close early for the season. depends on how long this new curfew lasts.
    Seems like dinner is nearly impossible to fit in under the curfew hour. I see Mahé has decamped to another country for vacation, so is Eddy’s still open?
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    hard to reconcile this new measure with the recently posted announcement from the St. Barths Tourism Committee...as somebody currently on the island on vacation and enjoying my visit, this puts a massive damper on our family vacation.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by JEK View Post
    Seems like dinner is nearly impossible to fit in under the curfew hour. I see Mahé has decamped to another country for vacation, so is Eddy’s still open?

    tonight will be their last night for the season.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Dinner the last few nights with a 21:00 curfew was difficult and rushed. Seems impossible now to enjoy dinner while hurting the local businesses and visitors. I expect most restaurants to close now for the season. Disappointed.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Zion’s solution, at least for now, is to move their opening time up to 17:45, and dinner to 18:00 (formerly 18:30):

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    For those who are here now, perhaps a long leisurely lunch is a solution with a casual dinner at home or someplace that is open at 6 or 6.30... such as Zion, has accommodated their time as above, etc... didn't someone famous once say that the best dinner on the island is lunch at the Sand Bar?

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    TR561 is online now
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    It could be worse folks, you could live in Australia and not be allowed to remove your mask when attempting to drink a beer outside. No matter what questionable rules any of you are experiencing now, it will never come close to what the morons calling the shots down under, are dishing out.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Agree Gables- Makes us lose confidence in Nils Dufau and his Tourism Committee. He does seem to have communicated with his government before sending his message out. Not impressive for a tiny island.

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    KevinS is offline
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Tamarin has also called it a season. They reopen on October 15.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by TR561 View Post
    It could be worse folks, you could live in Australia and not be allowed to remove your mask when attempting to drink a beer outside....
    Takeout alcohol sales after 6PM and drinking in public spaces were banned on St Barth 7/30 (see posts in this thread).

    I have no idea why the Australian regulation against mask removal to consume alcohol outdoors, which was put in place in response to events over the weekend, is not as straightforward as the prior St Barth regulation in addressing "consommation d'alcool sur la voie publique" but that seems to be what it is directed at.

    Beyond that, I’ll leave discussion of Australia to Australia travel forums.

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    cassidain is online now
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by stbartshopper View Post
    Agree Gables- Makes us lose confidence in Nils Dufau and his Tourism Committee. He does seem to have communicated with his government before sending his message out. Not impressive for a tiny island.
    I've reread the undated communique a couple of times. What is it specifically that you find troubling or inaccurate at the time (unknown) that it was written ?
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by cassidain View Post
    I've reread the undated communique a couple of times. What is it specifically that you find troubling or inaccurate at the time (unknown) that it was written ?
    Falls in the category of “Things change rapidly”
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    On another thread you say the Tourism Committee and the Prefecture are two different entities- things. One predicts travel restrictions will loosen up; covid infections are down- while the other is reporting a hospital full of new infections causing a more restrictive curfew- both at almost the same time.
    The island’s industry is tourism. To have one organization suggesting the island is on the upswing and the other causing restaurants to accelerate their summer closings can cause some confusion.
    These are difficult times and governments and medical personnel and institutions are being tested. All the more important for decisions, pronouncements, policies to be communicated in a manner that gives confidence.
    The cup is half full. The Tourism Committee is right. At some point the CDC will lift it’s Travel Advisory for the island. Let’s hope it is sooner rather than later.

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    cassidain is online now
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    M. Dufau presented some data, presumably correct, then forecast a change in the US CDC categorization of SBH.
    Le Préfet independently, and presumably at a later time, took measures based on the then current number of CV patients in the tiny SBH hospital.
    Two different things.
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Since the season is largely over, I read The tourism piece as a forward looking statement for season 21/22. The curfew is in response to very current information and hopefully will help fulfill the tourism “promise”.
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    The Tourism Office has no power. The Prefecture has all the power.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by pascaleschmidt View Post
    The Tourism Office has no power. The Prefecture has all the power.
    Marketing vs. Operations!
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    cassidain is online now
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by pascaleschmidt View Post
    The Tourism Office has no power. The Prefecture has all the power.
    bien évidemment
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    This whole thread refers to the curfew implementation occurring on 8/16/20 rather than 8/16/21 which could lead Forum leaders ‘astray.’

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Actually, it is 8/16/2021. What has led things astray is my inability to remember what year this is. I've corrected the titles.

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    cassidain is online now
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinS View Post
    Actually, it is 8/16/2021. What has led things astray is my inability to remember what year this is. I've corrected the titles.
    Kevin, was the date on the actual document you posted not correct? Or, did lead us "astray" as well ?
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    The date on the document was/is correct.
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    KevinS is offline
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by cassidain View Post
    Kevin, was the date on the actual document you posted not correct? Or, did lead us "astray" as well ?
    The 16/08/2021 date on the document is correct. What was incorrect was the date that I put in the thread title, which has now been corrected. The 8PM curfew is in effect as of yesterday.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    U Express in Lorient has announce that they are changing their closing time from 20:30 until 19:00 in order to conform with the new 20:00 Curfew.

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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by didier View Post
    tonight will be their last night for the season.
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    andynap is online now
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinS View Post
    U Express in Lorient has announce that they are changing their closing time from 20:30 until 19:00 in order to conform with the new 20:00 Curfew.
    Super U doing the same.

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    elgreaux is offline
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    Re: SBH Curfew now 20:00 - 03:00 (8PM - 3AM) as of 8/16/21

    JoJo supermarket has also posted they will now close at 7.30pm rather than 8pm...

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