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    PeterLynn is online now
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    House wine (vin maison)

    Been listening to podcasts to refresh my French and an episode took place in a restaurant where they ordered "Vin maison...." Made me wonder, do any of the island restaurants offer a house wine? Can't say I've noticed it nor paid attention to it if they did. If any of them do, any of note?

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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    A bartender friend of mine once told me that those requesting the "house red" are basically saying I don't want to ask for your cheapest wine but I'll have your cheapest wine.

    It's sort of a bygone thing, no?

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    Not bygone. My wife drank white and I red and we always had a glass of house wine. I don’t recall it being bad. They always had a choice or two.


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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    We have not see ‘house wine’ listed on a menu there. We have had guests who have asked for it on occasion. The response has been to serve them a glass without saying ‘we don’t have a house wine.’

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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterLynn View Post
    Been listening to podcasts to refresh my French and an episode took place in a restaurant where they ordered "Vin maison...." Made me wonder, do any of the island restaurants offer a house wine? Can't say I've noticed it nor paid attention to it if they did. If any of them do, any of note?
    I would defer to our native French speakers, but "vin maison" sounds more like "homemade or housemade wine" to me rather than "house wine".
    I might expect to hear something like "vin en pichet" or "vin au verre".
    What say our native or bilingual speakers?
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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    Quote Originally Posted by cassidain View Post
    I would defer to our native French speakers, but "vin maison" sounds more like "homemade or housemade wine" to me rather than "house wine".
    I might expect to hear something like "vin en pichet" or "vin au verre".
    What say our native or bilingual speakers?
    I'd go with house wine... which you could certainly order as un pichet (ou carafe?) de vin... or vin au verre.. have never looked to see if places here have a house red or house white...

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    Hideaway used to offer a carafe or a half mini carafe and called it house wine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amyb View Post
    Hideaway used to offer a carafe or a half mini carafe and called it house wine.
    called it “house wine” or “vin maison”?
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    Cass, that I do not remember.

    But I can still name Hideaway's outstanding front of the house crew!
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    Quote Originally Posted by amyb View Post
    Cass, that I do not remember.

    But I can still name Hideaway's outstanding front of the house crew!
    my favorite was Alain....

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgreaux View Post
    my favorite was Alain....
    Mine, too, Ellen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GramChop View Post
    Mine, too, Ellen.

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    A great team,..add Thierry, Chris and Hafida and don’t forget Todd at the bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amyb View Post
    A great team,..add Thierry, Chris and Hafida and don’t forget Todd at the bar.
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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    My "two cents" . . . I make an effort to engage someone -- the waiter or, if possible, a proprietor -- to say, "I know that you probably have 'vin ordinaire' that you serve by the glass . . . but maybe there's something better that I can get?" In many cases, there will be a glass offered from a bottle or two of exceptional open-wine that is sitting behind the bar. A little extra effort, asked with a smile and needy voice, often yields a glass of vintage pleasure!

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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    My bride is a big fan of the Chardonnay grape, finished in a buttery style. More than a few years ago she joined me on a business trip to London. She fell in love with the hotel bar’s house pour. Turns out it was Chassangne Montrachet at 25 BPS a glass
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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    Quote Originally Posted by JEK View Post
    My bride is a big fan of the Chardonnay grape, finished in a buttery style. More than a few years ago she joined me on a business trip to London. She fell in love with the hotel bar’s house pour. Turns out it was Chassangne Montrachet at 25 BPS a glass
    Your description has me tasting a Far Niente Chardonnay in my mind.
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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    Quote Originally Posted by GramChop View Post
    Your description has me tasting a Far Niente Chardonnay in my mind.
    One of my favorite wineries. We were wine club members for a couple of years. More a fan of their reds but their whites are pretty good too

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    PeterLynn is online now
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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    We have one of the Chardonnays awaiting the proper occasion.

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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim A View Post
    One of my favorite wineries. We were wine club members for a couple of years. More a fan of their reds but their whites are pretty good too

    I don't drink many Cabs, but there is usually a bottle of the Far Niente Chard in my wine fridge. A restaurant which I frequented, probably more than I should have, had the Chard mispriced on their menu - only about twice the retail cost, LOL.

    The label is, I think, the most beautiful that I have ever seen.

    But, getting back to the original post, Far Niente is not a house wine in anybody's world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinS View Post
    I don't drink many Cabs, but there is usually a bottle of the Far Niente Chard in my wine fridge. A restaurant which I frequented, probably more than I should have, had the Chard mispriced on their menu - only about twice the retail cost, LOL.

    The label is, I think, the most beautiful that I have ever seen.

    But, getting back to the original post, Far Niente is not a house wine in anybody's world.
    It would be if I ruled the world.
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    My dear wife and I love chardonnay but are much more partial to the use of the grape in a Chablis which hasn't been anywhere near oak. Lively acidity and mineral tang. Its not a wine club, but I have subscribed to the Garagiste email letter for many years. He often has 1er cru chablis at very friendly prices. Over the years we have bought many cases in the mid to high 20s which I consider a steal for a 1er cru. Biggest problem is their shipping policy. They only ship twice a year based on climate conditions. So I keep tapping on the buy button not checking how much I've already purchased. Last fall I had 13 cases show up. My dear wife though I had lost my mind.

    When I first saw 25 BPS, i had to think for a bit. BPS in my world means 25 basis points which is very little. 25 quid on the other hand is a major ouch. Reminds me of when I worked there in the noughties and how all the prices on the menus looked right to me except is was nearly 2 bucks to a pound.

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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    Concentrate on reducing inventory
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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    Quote Originally Posted by amyb View Post
    Concentrate on reducing inventory
    I working on it! Got too much wine in the house.

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    Re: House wine (vin maison)

    Quote Originally Posted by bkeats View Post
    I working on it! Got too much wine in the house.
    I’ll send my address.
    Sounds like our taste in wine aligns pretty well. Heavy oak, over ripe grapes, massive ABV not my thing.
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