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    Jim A is online now
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    Vanilla Rhum

    I have been enjoying my La Gloriette and Mbolo vanilla rhums that I had shipped home this Winter. Personally I like the Gloriette rhum better - YMMV of course.

    For the first time ever I am making (trying to?) my own. I looked at a bunch of the usual recipes on here and online and tinkered a drop with the one that looked the most appealing to me. I just put it in the fridge so let's see how it goes. I guess I'll have to have Siri remind me to take out the beans and add the simple syrup in 30 days.


    A question and a comment:
    Q: Why take out the beans instead of leaving them in for the second phase? Is it a chemical reaction thing with the sugar, a spoiling thing or just that the vanilla taste would be too strong if you left the beans in the whole time?
    C: Just did the math and damn making your own is a little more expensive than I thought

    to be continued...

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    stbartshopper is offline
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Sgree with you Jim. Hands down Gloriette. MBolo is more harsh- still good- Gloriette is smooth going down. Maybe a lot more sugar?
    Can’t wait for future reports from your learnings.

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim A View Post
    C: Just did the math and damn making your own is a little more expensive than I thought

    to be continued...
    I use a variation on the Hideaway fast version, using a 2-gallon infusion jar. It gets pricey in a hurry...

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    Jim A is online now
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    I saw that one and your version of it also Kevin. I believe the rums I used were based on one of your posts from a long time ago (Mount Gay eclipse and Goslings dark. I've wanted to make one of the "long" versions for a while so I went that route, but my next attempt will be based on the "fast" versions.

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Love our Gloriette rhum -- and so does everyone we introduce to it after dinner. Well, you know, back when you could have dinner with friends. :-)

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    Jim A is online now
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Anyone know the answer to this?

    Q: Why take out the beans instead of leaving them in for the second phase? Is it a chemical reaction thing with the sugar, a spoiling thing or just that the vanilla taste would be too strong if you left the beans in the whole time?

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim A View Post
    Anyone know the answer to this?

    Q: Why take out the beans instead of leaving them in for the second phase? Is it a chemical reaction thing with the sugar, a spoiling thing or just that the vanilla taste would be too strong if you left the beans in the whole time?
    Because that’s what the recipe says?


    Andy

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    Jim A is online now
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    Because that’s what the recipe says?
    Yeah, hence the question...

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    The beansvcan start to turn a bit bitter.
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    Jim A is online now
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Thanks Amy, I was thinking it could be something like that

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Au Regal sells a very nice vanilla rum by the bottle. I think the key is starting with a very good rum from Guadeloupe (Marie-Galante). I always come home with a couple of bottles and it never lasts long enough.

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    andynap is offline
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by amyb View Post
    The beansvcan start to turn a bit bitter.
    I didnít know you made long batch vanilla rum.


    Andy

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    andynap is offline
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim A View Post
    Yeah, hence the question...
    The problem is to get an answer you have to take a chance on ruining an entire batch. I donít know anyone who would do that.



    Kevin does the long batch frequently so maybe he knows.


    Andy

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    I've switched over to short batch. I don't have an answer on the beans.

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinS View Post
    I've switched over to short batch. I don't have an answer on the beans.
    ..I have left the beans in for a few months...never turned bitter........
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by PIRATE40 View Post
    ..I have left the beans in for a few months...never turned bitter........
    Good to know, Ron. Hi to Kathy
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    GMP62 is offline
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Honestly, is the rhum vanille around long enough for the vanilla pods to turn bitter?! Not in our house!!

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Do you recycle them?
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    I am doing my own Vanilla rum for years and I always leave the beans in the bottle. Never had the impression it gets bitter, but thean again, the bottle never gets really old.
    I do it like this: 0,7 liters of rhum agricole, I prefer Bielle or Bellevue, which we bring from Marie Gallante, 50%. One cup of water, one cup of sugar, cooked until all sugar is gone and 3 vanilla beans. I leave it at a dark place for 6 weeks. If you use rum with less alcohol, it is lighter.

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by amyb View Post
    Do you recycle them?
    Amy, I DO recycle my vanilla pods. I add them to sugar in containers for baking, etc. Very tasty.

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Or maybe in a bag of coffee beans.
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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    In Marie-Galant they only use fresh pressed sugarcane juice rather than molasses to make the rum. You can find it in St. Martin if you look carefully but if you ever get a chance a trip to the distilleries is well worth the effort. Some of the cane growers still use Oxen carts in the fields and roads. It's like stepping back in time over a hundred years.

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Quote Originally Posted by REK View Post
    In Marie-Galant they only use fresh pressed sugarcane juice rather than molasses to make the rum. You can find it in St. Martin if you look carefully but if you ever get a chance a trip to the distilleries is well worth the effort. Some of the cane growers still use Oxen carts in the fields and roads. It's like stepping back in time over a hundred years.
    . . . sounds like it would be a wonderful experience!

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    It is, and quite possibly the best rum to be found anywhere on the planet for the foodies out there.

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    On Grenada there is, or was about ten years ago, a demonstration rum distillery which took fresh cane from the fields, crushed it, cooked the juice and distilled it, right before your eyes. Raw, and I do mean raw, rum emerged from a small tap, and directly into a bottle.It was called "Rivers" Royale Grenadian Rum, from the River Antoine Estate. Estimated to be 'slightly overproof', it must be 150 proof, or so. Rough stuff; it would make moonshine seem like ambrosia.

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    Re: Vanilla Rhum

    Made our own long batch once.
    Made the mistake of taking someone's advice who said it didn't matter if cheap rum was used.
    Wrong! Now we make a short batch with an excellent rum and are very happy with the results! Andy's remains our all-time favorite---perhaps for old times sake---with La Gloriette's topping the charts today

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