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    Re: 2021 Rock and Roll HOF nominees

    Several names on that list that should already be in the Hall of Fame

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    Excellent 2021 class!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kent1994 View Post
    Several names on that list that should already be in the Hall of Fame
    And several should never be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    And several should never be.


    My thoughts too, Dennis
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    Quote Originally Posted by amyb View Post
    My thoughts too, Dennis

    DEVO?

    Come on!

    The Go-Go's?

    The New York Dolls? Popular in the Northeast, not so much anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    DEVO?

    Come on!

    The Go-Go's?

    The New York Dolls? Popular in the Northeast, not so much anywhere else.
    Uh, Den?


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    Re: 2021 Rock and Roll HOF nominees

    How are “winners” selected? And is there a certain number chosen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cec1 View Post
    How are “winners” selected? And is there a certain number chosen?
    It is complicated
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCFred View Post
    Uh, Den?


    ((According to the Encyclopedia of Popular Music (1995), the New York Dolls predated the punk and glam metal movements and were "one of the most influential rock bands of the last 20 years".[5] They influenced rock groups such as the Sex Pistols, Kiss, the Ramones, Guns N' Roses, the Damned, and the Smiths, ))
    I'll let JEK explain the nature of my post...if he wants to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEK View Post
    Thanks, John! Very interesting (& Byzantine!).

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    I think the Dolls should be there but likewise question the GoGos and Devo....and I actually saw Devo live.

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    Hopefully Tina, Dionne and Carole make it. Now Whip It! Whip It Good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marybeth View Post
    Devo....and I actually saw Devo live.
    I just learned about Devo thanks to a friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stbartshopper View Post
    ... Now Whip It! Whip It Good!
    Well, if you have an uncontrollable urge...

    (Apparently, that clip shows some people's idea of entertainment... before they get shown the light).

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    At least we've all heard of the New York Dolls and Devo, but Fela Kuti?!?!? I'm sure he's wonderfully talented but is he rock and roll?!?!? Who has his music? Who has even heard of him?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart -my real name- View Post
    At least we've all heard of the New York Dolls and Devo, but Fela Kuti?!?!? I'm sure he's wonderfully talented but is he rock and roll?!?!? Who has his music? Who has even heard of him?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEK View Post
    Daft Punk is trending
    "...by the way, which one's Daft?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart -my real name- View Post
    ... but Fela Kuti?!?!? I'm sure he's wonderfully talented but is he rock and roll?!?!? Who has his music? Who has even heard of him?...
    Fela Kuti is the most significant nominee on that list... really...

    This piece from the NYT gives an introduction and links to 10 of what the author considered his most essential songs along with 5 other Afrobeat (not to be confused with the more recent Afrobeats) songs.

    Rock fans of the Ď60ís got introduced through Ginger.Bakerís African excursion - Baker joined Felaís Africa 70 on 2 tracks of a great album that can be heard here or streamed by whatever service the youngfolk use these days.Fela is featured in the African portion of the Beware of Mr. Baker documentary. The Africa 70 drummer, Tony Allen, was also very important in the origins of Afrobeat.

    There are many live videos and other clips of Fela on youtube. Here is one with a later band, Egypt 80. Fela Kuti - Music Is The Weapon is a documentary that can be watched at the provided Vimeo link.

    One can argue about Fela and Afrobeat music belonging in the Rock HOF but you can do that with a lot of its members and musical inclusions.

    Bart, you need to take a break from comparative analysis of Dark Stars and check Fela Kuti out! Best of the Black President is a good starting point on the streaming services.

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    Thanks for the education Izzy! I'll check out some of Fela's stuff.

    Also thanks for info on Dark Star(s). 2-13-70 will always be #1 in my heart, but my top 10 list has about 40 entries!!

    Also, your research capabilities rival and possibly surpass the Library of Congress!!

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    Re: 2021 Rock and Roll HOF nominees

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Fela Kuti is the most significant nominee on that list... really...

    This piece from the NYT gives an introduction and links to 10 of what the author considered his most essential songs along with 5 other Afrobeat (not to be confused with the more recent Afrobeats) songs.

    Rock fans of the Ď60ís got introduced through Ginger.Bakerís African excursion - Baker joined Felaís Africa 70 on 2 tracks of a great album that can be heard here or streamed by whatever service the youngfolk use these days.Fela is featured in the African portion of the Beware of Mr. Baker documentary. The Africa 70 drummer, Tony Allen, was also very important in the origins of Afrobeat.

    There are many live videos and other clips of Fela on youtube. Here is one with a later band, Egypt 80. Fela Kuti - Music Is The Weapon is a documentary that can be watched at the provided Vimeo link.

    One can argue about Fela and Afrobeat music belonging in the Rock HOF but you can do that with a lot of its members and musical inclusions.

    Bart, you need to take a break from comparative analysis of Dark Stars and check Fela Kuti out! Best of the Black President is a good starting point on the streaming services.
    Sorry Izzy but I listened to one of your links and Fela isnít any kind of music I ever heard. It certainly isnít close to some of the other nominees.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    Sorry Izzy but I listened to one of your links and Fela isn’t any kind of music I ever heard. It certainly isn’t close to some of the other nominees.

    And this is the disqualifer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    And this is the disqualifer?
    I didn't disqualify anyone. It's just my observation to Izzy that bells, whistles, drums and noise isn't music to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    I didn't disqualify anyone. It's just my observation to Izzy that bells, whistles, drums and noise isn't music to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    Sorry Izzy but I listened to one of your links and Fela isnít any kind of music I ever heard. It certainly isnít close to some of the other nominees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andynap View Post
    ... bells, whistles, drums and noise isn't music to me.
    I guess Todd won't be getting your vote either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    I guess Todd won't be getting your vote either...
    Actually he’s a local boy where I grew up. He’s not bad. R&R Hall running out of real rock and rollers.


    Andy

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