Wine & Charcuterie

[Rene]

Note . . . I like the restaurant a lot, but be forewarned that it’s generally very loud. A very energetic & youthful vibe.

Ok, thanks, we'll go early I also saw the bar Seven Stars at Le Barthelemy has some light bites. They have Cinco Jotas ham, which my husband loves. Do you know what the vibe is there?

 

[dadto6]

MAMO

 

[cec1]

Ok, thanks, we'll go early I also saw the bar Seven Stars at Le Barthelemy has some light bites. They have Cinco Jotas ham, which my husband loves. Do you know what the vibe is there?

Hotel Le Barthélemy is within walking distance of my house, so I go there often. The vibe is very mellow . . . interestingly enough, comfortable for people of all age groups. I think you would like it.

 

[cec1]

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MAMO
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Great job, Bob, in sharing “food porn!” Addictive to see the photos, not to mention eating there!

 

[Rene]

Hotel Le Barthélemy is within walking distance of my house, so I go there often. The vibe is very mellow . . . interestingly enough, comfortable for people of all age groups. I think you would like it.

Great, I'll add it to the list, thanks so much!

 

[Jeanette]

Perhaps? Nonetheless, I always find the total of "small plates" to be surprisingly expensive.

I agree. My daughter recently commented that Le Papillon Ivre is always the most expensive meal of the trip and this includes dining at Sand Bar, Le Toiny, Beef Bar, Bonito, Bagatelle and Tamarin. Since the plates are "petite," we continue to order until we are satisfied. The wines we are offered typically start in the 200 euro range, glasses at 35 euros with a pour to match the size of the "small plates."

 

[cassidain]

I agree. My daughter recently commented that Le Papillon Ivre is always the most expensive meal of the trip and this includes dining at Sand Bar, Le Toiny, Beef Bar, Bonito, Bagatelle and Tamarin. Since the plates are "petite," we continue to order until we are satisfied. The wines we are offered typically start in the 200 euro range, glasses at 35 euros with a pour to match the size of the "small plates."

we were one-n-done

 

[etx]

I agree. My daughter recently commented that Le Papillon Ivre is always the most expensive meal of the trip and this includes dining at Sand Bar, Le Toiny, Beef Bar, Bonito, Bagatelle and Tamarin. Since the plates are "petite," we continue to order until we are satisfied. The wines we are offered typically start in the 200 euro range, glasses at 35 euros with a pour to match the size of the "small plates."

Agreed that the pours seem a bit smaller than a standard restaurant glass pour, however the price per glass is commensurate with the price of the bottle. Also they will tailor the bottle to your price range. Not trying to change any made-up minds! Just wanted to share our experience.

 

[cec1]

I agree. My daughter recently commented that Le Papillon Ivre is always the most expensive meal of the trip and this includes dining at Sand Bar, Le Toiny, Beef Bar, Bonito, Bagatelle and Tamarin. Since the plates are "petite," we continue to order until we are satisfied. The wines we are offered typically start in the 200 euro range, glasses at 35 euros with a pour to match the size of the "small plates."

Merci for your understanding, Jeanette!

 

[cec1]

Agreed that the pours seem a bit smaller than a standard restaurant glass pour, however the price per glass is commensurate with the price of the bottle. Also they will tailor the bottle to your price range. Not trying to change any made-up minds! Just wanted to share our experience.

Valuable input.

 

[Amery]

Small plates in general tend to add up—not just at Papillon but also at Hotel Toiny since they switched to a small plate dinner menu. Julie’s is a must visit for us—not only for the exceptional wines but also for wonderful food and staff. We will revisit Toiny for dinner next month. Maybe small plates aren’t for everyone? We enjoy them for a change of pace. Small or not, some of the best food (next to L’Esprit) we have had has been at Papillon. As it goes, to each their own

 

[KevinS]

As it goes, to each their own

Exactly. It’s your money, spend it how ever makes you happy. I’ve been happy with a Cheeseburger Pommes Frite and an ice-cold tiny-Heinie at Le Select. I’ve been happy with a Cheeseburger Pommes Frites and a bottle of Cotton Charlemagne Grand Cru at Santa Fé. Some wouldn’t consider my first choice, while others would be horrified at the other. My money. Both made me happy.

Small plates, I go there from time to time, but I’m not really a fan. But, when the mood strikes…

 

[cassidain]

In France, the standard pour in a bar for un verre is 4 oz (12.5 oz) versus more like 6 oz in the US. As I recall at LPI, their pours were noticeably less than 12.5 cl. Probably 10 cl if I had to guess.

 

[Amery]

We have dined at Papillon Ivre too many times to count and have never had a 10cl pour. Yes, standard French pours are less than in US; we find the pours there befitting a wine bar. Given it is a wine bar, you can always order a bottle and adjust pours to your liking.

 

[cassidain]

If we ever return (possible) we would definitely order a bottle not by the glass. Our pours were no more than 3 oz.
But we weren’t habitués. At our usual haunts we get « friendly » pours too.

 

[Risa]

Those Mamo dishes look amazing!

Re: Le Pap. It does add up. I didn't enjoy it as much this past trip from a price:value POV, but that's due to being with a group of 6 and disparate food preferences, especially mine. ALL of my meals on this trip were significantly more than usual, as I was subsidizing some bigger appetites (I mean, I do not eat foie gras, but I was paying for it!), both food and alcohol (especially since some were having more than 4-5 cocktails, and/or wine, and I was driving - not that I can tolerate more than 2 glasses, maybe 3 even if I weren't driving.) I should have been more aggressive about ordering what I eat at Le Pap, but the bill ran very high and I was less than satisfied, even though I love the place. That's on me. I loved the idea of traveling with a larger group and staying in a GORGEOUS villa, but sometimes you pay a different price when you are with a group. There are few economies of scale in St Barth. I'm not sure I would do the group thing again.

 

[amyb]

Those Mamo dishes look amazing!

Re: Le Pap. It does add up. I didn't enjoy it as much this past trip from a price:value POV, but that's due to being with a group of 6 and disparate food preferences, especially mine. ALL of my meals on this trip were significantly more than usual, as I was subsidizing some bigger appetites (I mean, I do not eat foie gras, but I was paying for it!), both food and alcohol (especially since some were having more than 4-5 cocktails, and/or wine, and I was driving - not that I can tolerate more than 2 glasses, maybe 3 even if I weren't driving.) I should have been more aggressive about ordering what I eat at Le Pap, but the bill ran very high and I was less than satisfied, even though I love the place. That's on me. I loved the idea of traveling with a larger group and staying in a GORGEOUS villa, but sometimes you pay a different price when you are with a group. There are few economies of scale in St Barth. I'm not sure I would do the group thing again.

You gave it a go and now you know for the next time, Risa

 

[dadto6]

Hi Risa,
I have always been taught and practice myself; if you are treating, do not complain about the situation or cost. One puts themselves there when extending the invitation. I have not any regrets regarding St. Barth, we all know it is costly but very much worth it or we would not keep revisiting. Wonderful memories are created on St. Barth; money comes and goes but the memories are everlasting

 

[NancySC]

Hi Risa,
I have always been taught and practice myself; if you are treating, do not complain about the situation or cost. One puts themselves there when extending the invitation. I have not any regrets regarding St. Barth, we all know it is costly but very much worth it or we would not keep revisiting. Wonderful memories are created on St. Barth; money comes and goes but the memories are everlasting

Well said Bob, memories everlasting so true!

 

[KevinS]

Le Papillon Ivre for me, was a one-and-done. I enjoyed it as a one-time experience, but I’m unlikely to return. I encourage others to give it a try for the experience.