JoshA
Reged: 08/28/05
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Come to think of it, they could also expand the other way to Hoosier Pass so that the ski bums living in Alma could no longer afford to stay there and would have to commute from the Springs.
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Mike R
Reged: 05/26/03
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Loc: Stinson Lake - New Hampshire
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Alma is already pretty close to unaffordable for working class people...Fairplay is next..if I told what I could get for my simple 2 bedroom 1200 sqaure feet condo you wouldnt believe it.
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JoshA
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I'm sure you could get more for your small condo than I got for my four bedroom home in the Springs. The same is true for an apartment in NYC versus a large house in the suburbs. It's the genius of capitalism - markets rule via Adam Smith's invisible hand.
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Mike R
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the beauty of this all...is if we go back to NH full time, instead of part time, in a year or so, like we are talking about...with what we will clear out of the sale of this place, we wlll be able to buy a farm house with 20 acres of land with the profit, and have no mortgage....its insane out here...you can get 10 grand for a nicely appointed cardboard refrigerator box...if the location is good
Edited by Mike R (03/14/06 11:17 AM)
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JoshA
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Ski to die -> Live free or die ;-)
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carter
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I know not a thing about back country skiing, but have to comment on Monarch.
I learned to ski at Monarch when I was 4. My brother started skiing at Monarch when he was around 2 (my parents rigged a rope around his waste with instruction from the super nice people at Mt.Shavano (sp?)). We drove from TX to Monarch 2-3 times a year for 8-10 years before branching out to Keystone, Vail, Breck, CB, etc. We stayed in a huge old (cold) Victorian house across from the hospital in Salida. Some of my greatest childhood memories are from Monarch Pass.
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Mike R
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well..Monarch is still open....they even have a quad operating now....that is a beautiful area by Salida and Buena Vista.....and they get a ton of snow as well....you should go back for a reunion trip
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JoshA
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Carter: Yep, Monarch is one of those small gems in Colorado that are near just about every mountain pass. Very family friendly and well positioned to pick up storms. It's a great place to learn to ski and I'd always see little kids with avalanche shovels in their backpacks learning how to do guide work, etc. Salida is a funky little town with good Mexican food and some art galleries and lots of motels along route 50.
Another gem can be found at Wolf Creek Pass which gets tons of snow (most in Colorado) from southern storms because it's the first high spot those storms see. There's also Cooper at Tennessee Pass near where the 10th mountain division trained in WWII. Of course, there's Arapahoe Basin and Loveland Ski area at Loveland Pass and there used to be a ski area at Berthoud Pass.
You can also see skiers on passes where there's no ski area. It used to be people would cross-country, telemark, or randonee on those passes but now you also see sled-skiing where snowmobiles provide the uphill transport. You can't park at Vail Pass anymore because the place is filled with trucks dragging snowmobiles. When they plow the Independence Pass road in June, the Aspen skiers use it to access the large snowfields nearby. You also see many skiers at Rabbit Ears Pass and Buffalo Pass near Steamboat. Lots of options in the back country.
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Mike R
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Wolf Creek, as you mentioned, is one of my all time favorite places to go....unfortunatley thats another one about to bite the dust and sell out...the Hunt Brothers of Texas fame and fortune have purchased all the land around and at the base area of the mountain and have plans for major development..... so here comes Marriot, Starbucks and Aveda Spas and sushi bars and oxygen bars ( that one really cracks me up ) and valet parking and everything else.....the town ( with the exception of the realtors) and the Park Service and everyone else is fighting it tooth and nail....but we, who know better, already know how this one will turn out.. so I'm thinking about getting back into the guide service and goin down there....200 bucks and I'll keep you in the sun all day...throw in another 100 and I'll tell you funny stories....another 200 and I'll make love to your wife if you're too tired after all day of skiing at elevation....another 100, heck I'll let you watch....LOL
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JoshA
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LOL. Guide service sounds like a good gig.
What are the Hunt Brothers thinking though? Wolf Creek doesn't lend itself to large-scale development. What town? South Fork? Pagosa Springs? Too far away. I will say that any of the southern Colorado ski areas will be an easier drive for those Texans (as though they need any encouragement).
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Mike R
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Loc: Stinson Lake - New Hampshire
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no town...right at the base itself and expanding out from there...wouldnt be Pagosa Springs...South Fork would be my guess....who knows what thy are thinking?...maybe they need a big ass tax write off
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