Mike R
Reged: 05/26/03
Posts: 15729
Loc: Stinson Lake - New Hampshire
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They are in for a historic catastrophic event....having worked and lived there while running an oilfield supply boat many moons ago I can tell you that most of the south coast is below sea level....from New orleans west to Morgan City there is a very delicate brackish water ecosystem that will take a tremendous hit....Grand Isle and Fourchon will no longer exist...I've seen Cat 1's and 2's hit that area while there and it was devavstaing...a 5 will destroy everything....so sad....also the storm's path is going through the heart of the offshore oilfield.....high levels of damage will send the already high price of oil even higher yet...look for 70 bucks a barrel this week if the worse happens
best to Roy and Dee and Jacque and everyone potentially in its path
Edited by Mike R (08/28/05 03:58 PM)
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SELES
Reged: 03/15/03
Posts: 1826
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Dittos for Jacque and family, and Roy and Dee and others in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida western gulf. Our best. Ric
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Island Visitor
Reged: 12/19/02
Posts: 10396
Loc: Retraité
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Amazingly, and let us keep our fingers crossed here, the pressure has increased some (a good thing) and the storm is sliding SLIGHTLY to the east. Will this be enough to keep from overwelming the levies? We dont know and wont know for sure for about 6 - 10 hours. But it just might, MIGHT, actually have weakened just enough and moved enough east to POSSIBLY spare New Orleans from an inundation. We just dont know yet.
Regardless, a Cat 4 hitting anywhere is a disaster.
Keep EXTRA prayers going throughout the day. Prayers to all our friends in the area and the millions in the path who we dont know.
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georgedp
Reged: 06/22/04
Posts: 2779
Loc: Beautiful hunterdon county new...
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Hi IV
Just reading an update and now they are predicting a storm surge of "only" 15 feet which is a lot better than the 28 foot storm surge they had originally predicted. Still a catastrophe but hopefully not as bad as originally predicted.
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Island Visitor
Reged: 12/19/02
Posts: 10396
Loc: Retraité
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It is possible that the levies will hold for the most part. Yes, parts of Nawlins will get several feet of water - perhaps 3 to 5 in some areas. But The Armageddon Scenario of the entire city being submerged, except for the rooftops of the taller buildings, may not come to pass.
HAD Katrina hit as a full Cat 5 and had the water been driven into Lake Ponchartrain with a 30 foot surge and had the eye gone directly over NO and driven the lake back into the city on leaving, you could then get out your eraser and change parts of your map of the state of Louisianna.
It now appears, APPEARS, that NO may have escaped this unprecedented fate by the narrowest of margins.
I hope this was as close as we ever get to seeing a US city cease to exist.
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Dennis
Reged: 04/05/04
Posts: 3146
Loc: Chicago
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Just heard a report on CNN that looters are already taking advantage...raiding a Winn-Dixie WITH THEIR CHILDREN in tow...nice parenting...
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georgedp
Reged: 06/22/04
Posts: 2779
Loc: Beautiful hunterdon county new...
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Just heard a report on CNN that looters are already taking advantage...raiding a Winn-Dixie WITH THEIR CHILDREN in tow...nice parenting...
Sets a great example for the children, doesn't it? BTW just read an update and has been downgraded to category 2 but that is still 105 MPH winds. I would guess at this point the problem is not going to be the wind so much as the storm surge and flooding.
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Petri
Reged: 01/19/04
Posts: 1301
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
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Just curious.. I've never been to that part of the US and I don't know much about the domestic politics in the US.
When the hurricanes hit Florida, the few forums I follow are flooded with support. When the London bombings happened, the same thing.
However now when one of the worst hurricanes hits, it's barely mentioned anywhere. I have occasionally surfed the satellite news channels here in Europe and to be honest, I get more information about the situation through our local daily newspaper than CNN International. The news about people looting, raping children, stealing at the hospitals, shooting rescue helicopters -- not exactly my idea of the US. People are more interested in the fuel price than what's happening in New Orleans.
Why is the situation getting so little attention? What's the "inside"?
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Mike R
Reged: 05/26/03
Posts: 15729
Loc: Stinson Lake - New Hampshire
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Florida is a vacationland for many people...also retirement land for many people...lots of money in Florida....lots of electoral votes too....Louisiana isn't any of that...and if you notice in the news films...most of the people left behind are black...and in our governments view....black people either dont vote or vote Democrat.....is all that relevant? you decide... ....why isnt it getting much attention from our government???..beats me....our news medias are starting to get edgey and ask that very same question.....the thing about our government and particularly our leadership is there is no rhyme or reason whatsoever to anything they do...its sort of like observing a bunch of toddlers in a day care center...same patterns....or rather..lack thereof...we cant really send a whole lot of state military people down there to help because most of our reservists are in Iraq looking for WMD's and terrorists and force feeding democracy down their throats ( and having such smashing success with it all too )....so anyway..the beat goes on here and my heart bleeds for those poor people down there...the "money people" left a long time ago...its the poor who were left behind to fend for themselves...and lets face it...if they were able to fend for themsleves in any situation in life they probably wouldnt be poor to begin with.....we can put a man on the moon but we cant life flight drinking water into the area for them all.......amazing..isnt it???
Edited by Mike R (09/02/05 05:25 AM)
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Island Visitor
Reged: 12/19/02
Posts: 10396
Loc: Retraité
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My television is covering new orleans 24/7, the good, the bad and the ugly. Of course, mississippi and alabama are also getting some coverage.
But, let's face it, you cant get great coverage in an area like this when the reporters are rightfully scared to leave whatever bunker they are hunkered in.
We can spin this any way we want. But I think a couple issues arise:
A lot of people, including poor people and folks who usually "ride out" storms, stayed behind. MOST of those people have done the best they could under EXTREME (to say the least) circumstances. However, some have not. As one fellow said on a newscast "Some of us rode this out waiting for the opportunity to go get what we wanted afterward".
There are desperate people in New Orleans right now. There are also some naughty people in New Orleans right now who are making the plight of the others even more desperate.
Shooting at an air-evac helicopter is not a "political act" or an act "born of desperation". Nor is breaking into hospitals to steal all the narcotics. Those acts are criminal. Let us call them what they are.
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georgedp
Reged: 06/22/04
Posts: 2779
Loc: Beautiful hunterdon county new...
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Shooting at an air-evac helicopter is not a "political act" or an act "born of desperation". Nor is breaking into hospitals to steal all the narcotics. Those acts are criminal. Let us call them what they are.
As is shooting at hospital personnel trying to evacuate the sick to other facilities where they can get better quality treatment. Insanity.
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JEK
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Reged: 01/20/04
Posts: 10718
Loc: Northern Virginia
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George,
I think that may be part of the answer, insanity I mean. A few unstable people in an unstable environment, add firearms and you have this chaos. Why else in heaven's name would someone shoot at the rescuers?
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