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NYCFred



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Re: Time After Time new [Re: tim]
      #25972 - 01/20/05 07:26 PM

Reminds me....for a certain type of visitor, the "True Value" hardware store in Gustavia is a must see...lotsa nifty tools, and an "Attention au Chien" sign for the dog in your life...LOL

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ChasBidd



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Re: Time After Time new [Re: NYCFred]
      #25975 - 01/21/05 02:51 AM

Swing by and see my garage on SBH. Spare parts for the generator, scrap lumber from 10s of 1000s DYI projects, odd assortments of PVC pipe, a case of WD-40, duct tape, electrical tape hundreds of assorted tools, paint, brushes, thinner, wire, line, screen and the 5 minute epoxy. I do most all repairs myself.

House call repair men are a relatively new species. When building was in it's prime, all workers went to new construction. It took some time for people to get experience and then realize that there was a secondary market to support those homes and such that were built.

I think you will find that most home owners on SBH are pretty handy with the screwdriver. They are a pretty resourceful group as well.

When pools were first introduced, not as long ago as you might think, all pool filter work was done by the owner. See my filter. Ha!

In reality, the repairs on SBH are more manual and time consuming rather than particularly technical.

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Re: Time After Time new [Re: ChasBidd]
      #26038 - 01/21/05 02:18 PM

Chas,

Your history on St. B really goes back to the good old days. I still want to hear about Camp David but will understand if that story requires a shared bottle or so of wine. Do you have a generator for current power failures or has that been around since the days before reliable electricity?

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ChasBidd



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Re: Time After Time new [Re: tim]
      #26112 - 01/23/05 04:20 AM

Goaded into a response. Let me see if I can pull together several threads. ..I was going to go out to dinner with my lovely wife last night to the latest and greatest resteraunt here in North Salem after fixing a leaky pipe but the blizzard and a dead truck battery kept us in. Naked, relying on our generator for emergency power, we sat by our toasty, roaring fire, trying new vintages from the local wineries, thinking of the old days in SBH.

My musings brought me to visions of early Camp David.

I was introduced to SBH in the late 1960s. I was a mere youth of 10 / 11 years old. Some of the founding fathers and mothers of modern day SBH were still alive, had hair and were still svelt. Even as a boy, I could feel the buccaneer, free spirit, laise faire attitude that prevailed on the island.

Building a house and furnishing it was a real adventure for my parents. I was fortunate to be a part of helping my father create his mecca.

I digress....

My brother and I used to cruise St. Jean in our ubiquitious surfer jams. (Those printed cotton knee length things that we insisted were bathing suits.) Eden Rock was the only commmercial enterprize there. In my innocence, Eden Rock served only two purposes.. 1) a place to stop and see the loungouste in their pens and 2) something to circumvent in order to get from one end of the idilic beach to the other. Topas bar??

So, in the early 70's, during our beach wanderings we happened across a new establishment being crudely erected / cleared between the beach and a swampy environ on the eastern crescent of St. Jean. There, we spied "middle aged" men and women dressed or undressed in what appeared to be Tarzan and Jane outfits, making "Camp". Hammocks, open fires, palm frond shelters, candles in coconuts and wine bottles, 55 gallon barrels of water and styrofoam refrigerators made up the household furnishings. Bronzed, blonde, naked toddlers ran blissfully, randomly about. This is what I remember of what I believe is now called Camp David. Back then, it was Michael's Camp.

Michael was the camp's founder and alpha dog. I never determined what the relationships were between the men, women and children. (other than assuming the children belonged to the older campers) I never cared to know and I still could not care less. Everyone at the camp was very nice to my brother and me. It was a fun place to visit and play. Sort of a Swiss Family Robinson type place in our minds. Over time / several different visits to SBH and Michael's commune, we would see some new faces in residence. (some had left)

I vividly remember Michael and my collecting spiny urchins in st. Jean bay, bringing them to the beach, opening them with my knife on a piece of driftwood, squeezing lime juice on the roe and slurping it all down. If only I was old enough to chase it with a swig of Mt. Gay. Michael did.

It may be my imagination, but I think I remember Michael, either being from "money" or had made some money and had gotten burned out in his rat race. Regardless, he was a very nice guy. My father and Michael would talk about things as they related to living on SBH. The past or the "real" world was never discussed.

I do not really know the full story behind the camp and I lost touch with the evolution of the camp's development as I had to grow up, get further educated and start paying my own bills.

Just some of my thoughts, forgive the ramble and misspellings..

Chas.

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Camp David, L'Histoire new [Re: ChasBidd]
      #26114 - 01/23/05 04:28 AM

Chas,
C'est magnifique! Merci beaucoup.

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KevinS



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Re: Camp David, L'Histoire new [Re: tim]
      #26115 - 01/23/05 06:35 AM

What is Camp David now? I saw the sign when I was staying at villa DAD a few years ago, but still don't know what it refers to.

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Re: Camp David, L'Histoire new [Re: KevinS]
      #26125 - 01/23/05 10:05 AM

Chas,

And idea what attracted your family to St. Barth originally? Surely at that time it was like going to the edge of the earth.

Kevin,

I can't help with the current state of Camp David, but I too am curious. Maybe another reader can help.

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JackR



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Thanks TIm for the directions to the pools new [Re: tim]
      #26129 - 01/23/05 10:52 AM

We had a lovely hike on Friday, wore sandels to avoid the sea urchins. Lovely place and we were all along for a time there.

BTW Saw that my car tag is still hanging in select SB971


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Re: Thanks TIm for the directions to the pools new [Re: JackR]
      #26158 - 01/23/05 06:46 PM

JackR,

Sounds like a great trip, and I'm glad you found the hike okay. I have a crazy friend who wants me to hike with him around that mountain to Saline Beach. It's such a crazy idea that I won't divulge his name but will identify him only by his initials, JEK.

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JimmyR



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Re: Camp David, L'Histoire new [Re: KevinS]
      #26184 - 01/24/05 08:33 AM

Kevin,I'll be staying at villa DAD March 6th-13th. how was
it?We have stayed at villa BOO(also in the camp david compound)Several times.It was not available so we chose
DAD.We really enjoy the convenience of being right in St.Jean.Any more reports on beach erosion in St.Jean?


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Re: Camp David, L'Histoire new [Re: JimmyR]
      #26186 - 01/24/05 08:48 AM

DAD was fine, but I did find the skeeters a bit more persistant than I have experienced up in the hills. It's a great villa for a large group - we were 8. The location made it easy for some people to run off in the rental cars, while others could easily walk to nearby shops and restaurants.

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NYCFred



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Re: Time After Time/ Camp David? new [Re: ChasBidd]
      #26187 - 01/24/05 08:50 AM

OK, so who's got the pictures? would LOVE to see any of the old SBH photos you'd care to dig out...
I collect old (black and white) postcards relating to Fire Island, just to be amazed by the changes in the last 75+ years...would love to see some of the same history for SBH....

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