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rosita



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Re: rain? [Re: KevinS]
      #141907 - 09/22/08 07:23 AM

Yes Kevin, today it's blue sky!
I will bring a bottle of rosé champagne tonight and share it with my new friends
..of course I will have a little glass at " votre santé " for you all of this forum
bisous
Rosita


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stbartslover



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Re: rain? new [Re: rosita]
      #141911 - 09/22/08 08:41 AM

George (Voosh) is right---never count on your bags making it same day, especially late.

Earl---worse things than operating in the rain...relax and enjoy your next trip over. Winair has been flying that hop since the mid 60's without incident. Spoke to our Guest, an IFR rated pilot---said it did appear non VFR at times (no horizon) fortunately, it cleared near SBH and the Captain made a perfect apporach. Since others still stranded Princess J, Winair made an even later flight (still without bags) and was able to bring everyone over.



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Skeeter



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Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: stbartslover]
      #141915 - 09/22/08 09:40 AM

Serious rain-related question -- Has there been any discussion of adding guard rails to some of the roads? Driving back to IDF one night in a relatively light rain we almost went off the road a few times. I sure would prefer to hit a guard rail than go off the side.

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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Skeeter]
      #141916 - 09/22/08 09:50 AM

Quote:

Serious rain-related question -- Has there been any discussion of adding guard rails to some of the roads? Driving back to IDF one night in a relatively light rain we almost went off the road a few times. I sure would prefer to hit a guard rail than go off the side.




One of the few . . . . over the years a couple more have been added, but the cost of equipping all the logical places would be prohibitive and likely detract of the ambiance. Go slow, high beams and 4WD when wet.


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Voosh



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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Skeeter]
      #141918 - 09/22/08 10:09 AM

Re: "I sure would prefer to hit a guard rail than go off the side."

Um, Ya went off the side when you discovered St. Barts. Like it?

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Mike R



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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Skeeter]
      #141920 - 09/22/08 10:20 AM

Quote:

Serious rain-related question -- Has there been any discussion of adding guard rails to some of the roads? Driving back to IDF one night in a relatively light rain we almost went off the road a few times. I sure would prefer to hit a guard rail than go off the side.





yeah lets do ONE more thing to make it more like home and less like it has been for decades......

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Skeeter



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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Mike R]
      #141921 - 09/22/08 10:27 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Serious rain-related question -- Has there been any discussion of adding guard rails to some of the roads? Driving back to IDF one night in a relatively light rain we almost went off the road a few times. I sure would prefer to hit a guard rail than go off the side.





yeah lets do ONE more thing to make it more like home and less like it has been for decades......




But there are certain things I like about home, notably not going to my death in a firey (spelling -- even a word?) crash.

Narrow and twisting is not a problem for me. That adds character and charm. Going off a cliff? That's another matter.

At the very least, road striping would be nice. To at least be able to see the edge of the road would be great, particulary when driving the typical POS car on SB.

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Voosh



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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Mike R]
      #141922 - 09/22/08 10:31 AM

Yep, I miss Jarts and not wearing a helmut (here in MI) and having the lawnmower quit whenever I need to empty the bag. Saved me so many times.

Feeling safer all the time,

Voosh

-- Rosita! Sorry. We got lost here. Hope the rains are gone. Hope all is well.

Edited by Voosh (09/22/08 10:36 AM)


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Mike R



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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Voosh]
      #141924 - 09/22/08 10:37 AM

it is what it is and how its been for as long as I have been going....and I don't see any wrecked cars at the bottom of any ravines there ( and you KNOW down there it would remain in the ravine for years and years )......which tells me there is no need to fix what isn't broken

you want scary try driving in a whiteout snow storm in Colorado high country where they too believe in the Darwinism approach to roads in regards to guardrails and the drops are very very long...LOL

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Skeeter



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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Mike R]
      #141926 - 09/22/08 10:43 AM

We are going to have to agree to disagree.
I don't mind "dangerous" but I've got a problem with "needlessly dangerous."
It might be because I make a living dealing with the aftermath of injuries (usually when construction workers don't think they need to use that fall protection that has been offered them) so when I see an open danger, I tend to think that it makes sense to try and make the condition safe.
On construction projects, the goal always needs to be to do what needs to be done to make sure every worker goes home safety to his family every night, and the same thing applies to roads.
If we can make them more safe, we should.

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Mike R



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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Skeeter]
      #141927 - 09/22/08 10:55 AM

it isnt America.........its St Barts.....they have plenty of guardrails in Miami Beach, Hilton Head, Pacific Coast Highway etc
maybe someone on the island can comment on how many lives have been lost on the "needlessly dangerous" guard rail less roads there


the next thing you know Americans will be recommending handrails for the walk to Colombier......LOL

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Voosh



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Re: Roads/Guard Rails? Sure would help in the rain. new [Re: Skeeter]
      #141929 - 09/22/08 11:09 AM

I know this is going to sound snide and not politically correct -

We've gone through +400,000 years of evolution. I don't think yellow lines on the road and hard hats are gonna stop us now. Too many laws. Too much ignored.

Yeah, I'm voting for the new guy. But, please, some commensense all around would be nice.

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