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BillK



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Zanzibarth
      #86365 - 01/31/07 08:10 AM

If you like K'fe Massai, you'll like Zanzibarth. The chef from the old Vincent Adam is cooking here and Mick Proulx and his partner have a hit on there hands. Still not very busy but busier than I've seen this place in the last 3 or so years. Excellent Menu. On site owners make a huge difference.

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Petri



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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: BillK]
      #86374 - 01/31/07 10:13 AM

We loved Zanzibarth as well, if we had stayed on the island one evening longer, that would have been the next restaurant to visit again. One of our "must-visit" restaurants for future trips, together with e.g. Wallhouse and K'fe Massai.

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KevinS



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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: BillK]
      #86375 - 01/31/07 10:15 AM

Good points Bill. I've been meaning to write a few words on Zanzibarth for some time now.

Last November, while dining at K'fe Massai, we had an opportunity to see the Zanzibarth menu. The menu looked great, and we resolved to give Zanzibarth a try.

It has been a long time since I've been to a restaurant in Zanzibarth's location. I was there once or twice when it was Le Colonial, but never at all under the previous Zanzibarth ownership. I had forgotten that the parking is limited if you follow the sign pointing up the hill to Zanzibarth. What may work better is to park by the Christine Celle Boutique or Le Glacier, and walk up the stone steps between the two shops.

As was mentioned, Mic Proust (K'fe Massai) is one of the new owners. The face of the operation at Zanzibarth is Delphine, who many will remember from her years at Eddy's. The chef is Pierre Poinsignon, formerly of Vincent Adam, and I recognized several items from the old Vincent Adam menu.

We had both pretty much decided on what we wanted for dinner, and then I turned the menu over and was faced with the €75 Degustation Menu. A light lunch that day encouraged us to give it a try, despite the seven courses. The degustation menu started with an Asparagus Veloute with Truffles, and went on to include a cold Lobster Lasagna, a millefeuille of Foie Grass and potato slices, Mahi Mahi cooked on the plate with Pomme D'Amour sauce, Duck Breast Roulé with Bacon and Juniper, Coconut Blanc Manger with Strawberry Sauce, and the Grand Marnier Soufflé that I remembered from Vincent Adam.

The winelist was obviously influenced by Mic Proust, and shares some bottles with the K'fe Massai winelist. Some of the waitstaff are people that I remember from K'fe Massai, and some are new to me. Overall, it was a very nice evening.

I'm glad that we tried the degustation menu, and we both enjoyed it, but with seven courses I feared that we would run out of room before the final dessert. On our next visit, and there will be a next visit, perhaps I can content myself with ordering from the regular menu. I definitely want to try the Mahi Mahi "cuite sur l'assiette, sauce pomme d'amour" again. The Mahi Mahi is on the regular menu too, as are many if not all of the items on the degustation menu.


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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: BillK]
      #86377 - 01/31/07 10:17 AM

So many places, so little time. We are bringing daughter and her intended along for a week of our two weeks in February and it is a chore to sort out all the "musts" for dining. What a problem to have :-)

Sun. Arrive. Eddy's
Mon. Maya's (wife and daughter must)
Tues. Baz Bar after the Carnaval parade
Wed. The new Sapotillier
Thur. Le Gaiac (wife must - engagement dinner)
Friday Andy's all around fav
Sat. Villa dinner with Bertrand Dantec. After boat trip around island.
Sun. They depart and we go to the Wall House.

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SELES



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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: JEK]
      #86378 - 01/31/07 10:28 AM

Jean, have you had any Bertrand DANTEC's homemade yogurt? If you haven't, ask for some to be brought that nite. It is unbelievable!

Ric

PS~Never a frequent client, but I did like the old Zanzibarth & their menu, and excellent service. BUT I totally agree with all having been to the new Z two times recently. Very, very good...Kevin, the regular menu is excellent.


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KevinS



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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: JEK]
      #86379 - 01/31/07 10:31 AM

JEK -

There was one thing that I learned from Tolkien's Fellowship of the Ring - the concept of Second Breakfast. Why not apply it to dinner?

Is Eddy's open on Sunday nights? I don't remember which night he closes, and it isn't listed on my resto list.


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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: JEK]
      #86382 - 01/31/07 10:38 AM

Quote:

So many places, so little time. We are bringing daughter and her intended along for a week of our two weeks in February and it is a chore to sort out all the "musts" for dining. What a problem to have :-)

Sun. Arrive. Eddy's
Mon. Maya's (wife and daughter must)
Tues. Baz Bar after the Carnaval parade
Wed. The new Sapotillier
Thur. Le Gaiac (wife must - engagement dinner)
Friday Andy's all around fav
Sat. Villa dinner with Bertrand Dantec. After boat trip around island.
Sun. They depart and we go to the Wall House.




well at least you dont have every minute of your week planned out...LMAO

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86384 - 01/31/07 11:40 AM

Oh, I forgot lunches:
M Sand Bar
T Le Select
W Nikki
T Sand Bar
F Andy's
S On the boat
S Villa brunch with Bertrand.

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: JEK]
      #86386 - 01/31/07 11:43 AM

if we ever vacationed together....one of us would more then likely spontaneously combust...LMAO

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86387 - 01/31/07 11:46 AM

Quote:

if we ever vacationed together....one of us would more then likely spontaneously combust...LMAO




I haven't even mentioned all the technology I plan on taking with me. Nothing like conference calls and BlackBerry email sitting on 30E chair feet from the surf at Nikki Beach. Ah, vacation!


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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: JEK]
      #86389 - 01/31/07 11:50 AM

LMAO...my ex would have loved you...you two have the same ideas and values on vacation....LOL


now she's driving some other poor sap crazy with her incessant planning and needing to "be in touch"...LOL

its all living proof that there is a God watching over us


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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86390 - 01/31/07 11:53 AM

Well, my current and only has been putting up with my antics for 35 years this March. I only go over the edge once or twice a year in her book :-)

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Fractional new [Re: JEK]
      #86391 - 01/31/07 11:55 AM

One more detail: on Wednesday we have an appointment to tour one of the fractional (aka time-share) at Eden Rock. Did I mention Nikki has free WiFi too?

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rob



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Re: Fractional new [Re: JEK]
      #86392 - 01/31/07 12:00 PM

Please let us know the details after the ER fractional tour. I am curious about how much that extra week in season will set you back...

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Tradewinds new [Re: JEK]
      #86393 - 01/31/07 12:01 PM

Got an email request from WIMCO on behalf of Tradewinds requesting my party's passport info today. That really kicked off my planning frenzy.

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Re: Fractional new [Re: JEK]
      #86394 - 01/31/07 12:06 PM

Quote:

One more detail: on Wednesday we have an appointment to tour one of the fractional (aka time-share) at Eden Rock. Did I mention Nikki has free WiFi too?




God bless and knock yourself out mon ami.....

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: KevinS]
      #86395 - 01/31/07 12:15 PM

Kevin,
Not a bad concept. I have a cousin who travels back to the heartland frequently and sometimes schedules 3 breakfasts just to see everyone. Good point on Eddy's, I call this Sunday and check. Can't over plan a vacation on SBH.



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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86397 - 01/31/07 02:04 PM

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if we ever vacationed together....one of us would more then likely spontaneously combust...LMAO


Miker,i give that zero chance of ever happening..JEK has more sense than to visit SBH in June..LOL

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Peter_NJ]
      #86398 - 01/31/07 02:30 PM

Peter,
Went once for Marius' 80th birthday party. Nice weather, but so is my backyard in June :-)

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Peter_NJ]
      #86400 - 01/31/07 02:41 PM

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i give that zero chance of ever happening..JEK has more sense than to visit SBH in June..LOL




right you are Peter....here's hoping everyone practices "more sense" til the end of time and that wonderful delicate balance stays as such...!!!!..LOL

and what the heck is that in the pot????


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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86401 - 01/31/07 02:47 PM

Quote:

Quote:

i give that zero chance of ever happening..JEK has more sense than to visit SBH in June..LOL




right you are Peter....here's hoping everyone practices "more sense" til the end of time and that wonderful delicate balance stays as such...!!!!..LOL

and what the heck is that in the pot????




Chum, Capt, that's chum :-) Seemed to have worked.

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: BillK]
      #86405 - 01/31/07 05:46 PM

Quote:

If you like K'fe Massai, you'll like Zanzibarth. The chef from the old Vincent Adam is cooking here and Mick Proulx and his partner have a hit on there hands. Still not very busy but busier than I've seen this place in the last 3 or so years. Excellent Menu. On site owners make a huge difference.




On the other hand, if you despised K'Fe Massai, thought the food was tedious, and the service was miserable, then you should stay away from Zanzibarth?

In all seriousness, K'fe Massai was the only bad meal that I have had on St. Barth. The service was worth than the food.

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Skeeter]
      #86406 - 01/31/07 06:30 PM

that happened to us once...two other times it was great...like anyplace, it can happen...Massai is not on our list this trip as there are so many others we have yet to visit.

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Re: Fractional new [Re: rob]
      #86410 - 01/31/07 08:14 PM

WIMCO has some info on the offerring EROS

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: JEK]
      #86413 - 01/31/07 10:01 PM

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Chum, Capt, that's chum :-) Seemed to have worked.




doesnt look anything like chum we use.....but I'm glad for your sake its chum and not lunch.....but then again,..you rave over pre frozen cooked sole...so maybe that could be lunch.....LOL

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86414 - 01/31/07 10:07 PM

You back from Denver? How'd you do?

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Rivertrash]
      #86416 - 01/31/07 10:10 PM

yeah - just got back...played #3 in the state..lost by 20......we had no business being on the same floor with them tonight....but we re out of the brutal part of our schedule now and will probably win the next 3.....12-7 with 6 left..I cant complain

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86417 - 01/31/07 10:14 PM

Well, sometimes it's chicken; other times it's feathers. I still remember an away game when I was a senior in high school where we lost by 38 and it wasn't really that close. Glad you made it there and back with no problems.

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Rivertrash]
      #86418 - 01/31/07 10:18 PM

the storm kind of fizzled out...it was an easy ride back..we even stopped for dinner...we're the only mountain team who goes into Denver and bangs it with the good city teams....these games are good for us...it gets us ready for the dance..we ve played #1,#3 , and #6 in the past 10 days...now we get a breather

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86419 - 01/31/07 10:21 PM

Skeeter...hard to believe you experience in K'Fe Masai was that bad..... we found it to be one of the better meals in terms of both service and food...... think about a second chance maybe...

is Zanzibarth still...really really white????

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86422 - 02/01/07 04:04 AM

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,..you rave over pre frozen cooked sole...




Sand Bar sole is flipping fresh. Airlifted in by Air France daily!



Photos courtesy my Sole Mate KevinS.

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: JEK]
      #86428 - 02/01/07 05:15 AM

and the check is in the mail


and I will love you forever


you know what the third cliche is....LOL


if not..I'll pm it to you

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: bto]
      #86454 - 02/01/07 07:19 AM

Quote:

that happened to us once...two other times it was great...like anyplace, it can happen...Massai is not on our list this trip as there are so many others we have yet to visit.




That was also the one place where I thought Americans were treated differently than others.

Was that just me?

In my trips to France and St. Bart, I never felt hostility based on being American, but when we were there it seemed that the Americans were herded to the back and didn't get much service.

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Mike R]
      #86460 - 02/01/07 07:48 AM

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and the check is in the mail


and I will love you forever


you know what the third cliche is....LOL


if not..I'll pm it to you




It's not you, it's me?


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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: Skeeter]
      #86469 - 02/01/07 08:19 AM

I agree about the food at Massai. We ate there in November. Bar was fun and the drinks nicely presented. The food was at best average. Not on my list for a return visit

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Re: Zanzibarth new [Re: infi]
      #86474 - 02/01/07 08:33 AM

K'fe Massai used to be one of our usual haunts. In December we went twice. The first time the food and service were very, very good. The next week, the food was inedible, portions smaller, not fresh, though the service was fine. We were told that they alternate chefs during the week. The first night we were there it was their "A" chef, the next time it was the "fill-in" chef. IMHO one of the worst mistakes a resto can make is to sacrifice consistency for economics, if indeed that is their reasoning, which is what we were told.

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