tim
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This brief story tells what may be my worst experience with the concept of "island time" in my years on St. B. In need of some new upholstery for the funiture in our petite salon, I inquired on Monday with the owner of a local shop if they could help us with some and was immediately asked if I was in a hurry for it. It turns out I was not and so replied. She seemed satisfied with my response. My talented and artistic wife picked out some beautiful fabrics on that Tuesday, and we finalized the price, etc on Wednesday, at which time we were told to pick up the finished pieces on Saturday. They were indeed ready on Saturday and IMHO looked great. My evil twin is trying to talk me into ordering something else from that sweet lady in Lorient and saying I'm in a hurry just to see what happens. So much for "island time."
Life
I feel like I've made a major breakthrough in St. Barth Society. The trash collectors now recognize my face and occasionally wave to me! What can possibly be next - receptions at L'Hotel de Ville and dinner with His Honor, Mayor Bruno? Of course my bonding with the working folk is enhanced by our shared time on the road early in the morning when I play on the hills and they perform their invaluable service, both at nearly identical speed. Now if I could just figure out how to get my hands on one of those super cool tee shirts that say,
Maire de St. Barthelemy
Service de Proprete
Perhaps I have a friend who might score me one of those shirts in return for a favor already done - like locating his current New Hampshire license plate formerly hanging on the wall at L'Entr'Acte? I've seen the shirts in several different colors, and blue is my favorite - although the colors can be hard to differentiate after a few pickups.
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JEK
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Tim, Thanks for giving us the opportunity to experience the daily life of SBH vicariously through your dedicated reporting. I still remember the story of the dog supervising the chickens from one of your Gr. Fond rides. I have a connection in the L'Hotel de Ville that can help if MikeR is unable to trade plate for shirt.
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tim
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The driver of the vehicle without the above identified license plate is curretly being sought for a wide variety of offenses. Anyone reporting his whereabouts is eligible for a substantial reward. All replies to this site will be kept in strictest confidence.
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Mike R
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ok...so here is the deal...IF you have the plate in your possession I will try to get a garbage shirt for you...but if not I can offer you a variety of very cool Summit HIgh basketball shirts...we have the "Summit Hoops - Breath Deep - 9700' " shirts..we have the "Summit Hoops - Got Oxygen? - Runnin and Gunnin at 9700' " shirts and we have the "Summit Basketball - Its a Matter of Pride- 2004-05 " shirts..the bumper sticker of the last shirt can be found on a shutter at Select, along with the other two programs bumper stickers I've coached at....
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JimmyR
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O.K.At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot,Can someone please translate what exactly that t-shirt says? It's obviously something to do with the garbage pick-up.
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Mike R
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I believe it means Mayor of ST Barts, Servicing property
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tim
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Since I wouldn't last even one hour on "the truck", I'm probably not qualified to wear the proud uniform of the Service de Proprete. Therefore I accept with much gratitude your generous offer for Summit Hoops - Got Oxygen. It's sort of in keeping with that bicycle thing. Size medium would be perfect.
Proprete - nf. cleanliness, cleanness, neatness, tidiness, hygiene.(There's supposed to be an accent ' on the last e, but I'm not sufficiently computer literate to insert it.)
BTW, for such a small place the island has a relatively sophisticated system for collection, disposal, and recycling of solid wastes. One day when I'm feeling especially romantic and vulnerable, I'll try to do a post on it. I guess I'm going to have to be really careful in choosing the correct french word for "dump".
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Mike R
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so how and when did you get my plate?
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GayleR
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Collection may be sophisticated, but I am guessing from the sign on the road towards Vitet, past Trois Forces, about not leaving trash by the receptacles or risk attracting rats, that not all residents are as sophisticated. And I have seen a few island rodents and they are HUGE!
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tim
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I deserve the shirt for just having gotten the information on where your plate is located. It's up to you to actually recover physical possession, but I'll go with you to hold your hand if you'll buy me dinner like a real date.
Yes, St. Barthelemy is blessed with a significant rat population, especially during this season. If people would quit feeding the blasted cats in all the restaurants, maybe they'd be hungry enough to actually go after some of the four-legged ones.
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Mike R
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well I could have figured al that out..a quick trip to the bar and JL would have told me...but I'll give you a shirt anyway just cause you're a nice guy....will you be there in June?? .... or April???....also..I've seen the cats...and I've seen the rats...and my money would be on the rats eating the cats... all the cats I've seen look pretty anemic
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tim
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MikeR,
Anemic though they might appear, the Vitet gatherings of those rascals have the vocal cords of Tony the Tiger! What is it in the genetic code of cats that makes them scream those ungodly sounds at ungodly hours? Are they fighting or that other f___ing word? For those of us who appreciate the night air and only occasionally turn on the A/C just to confirm it works, there's are very few things worse than being awakened by that horrible racquet in an otherwise tranquil evening. If I could just get my sweet dogs down here and back without subjecting them to the baggage compartment or throwing away my retirement savings on a private jet trip, I think I could resolve the issues I have with my nocturnal cat friends - and maybe some rats as well.
I don't yet know my travel plans beyond March. I'm still accumulating ff miles faster than I can burn them, but I also want to maintain my gold status on U.S. Air. On the other hand, what good is gold status on an airline without wings? I'll get back to you on the schedule.
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Kara Brooks
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The island does have a rather neat trash disposal system. In true layman speak (i.e. I know very little about this) --St. Barths uses the power generated by burning its garbage to fuel its relatively new (few years old) desalination plant. Rather resourseful and environmentally sound (although water still costs a fortune).
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Dennis
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Quote:
Size medium would be perfect.
man...I gotta get a bike!
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tim
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To follow up on Kara's point, the inceneration of trash is the only way to go for a place like St. Barth. Glass and metal won't burn in the incenerator and removal of those elements causes extra problems in the incenerator operation. I would therefore like to remind all visitors that recycling of glass and metal is essential to the disposal system here. Paper and plastics are burned along with the regular trash. Your cooperation in the recycling effort will do wonders to improve American-French relations on a geopolitical scale. Merci!
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tim
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Dennis,
I'm trying to prove to the world that I can stay on topic, so don't get me started on a typical bike fanatic ride in this thread, which would surely get me EEexiled.:-)
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Island Visitor
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tim: You have already passed The Obligatory Dozen posts in this thread and therefore the second law of thermodynamics (all threads tend toward entropy) almost guarantees an eventual shark jumping.
But, just to prove that I am not the ONLY shark-jumper in this site, I shall also stay on topic. Does anyone REALLY know what happened to the MR licence plate?
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Mike R
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IV..yeah..Tim asked JL where it was and JL said he thinks its in his attic....the ingrate is going to get a punch in the nose when I see him....LOL...meanwhile I finally caved in, ( 4 years later ) and switched the plates on my car out here to Colorado........at the rate JL redecorates and changes themes...the plate will probably come back around in the future as a retro
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jroyer
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If people would quit feeding the blasted cats in all the restaurants, maybe they'd be hungry enough to actually go after some of the four-legged ones.
I don't know...the (thankfully few) rats I've seen in SB have easily outweighed and island feline, even the chat du restaurante.
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tim
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Before this thread morphed, comme d'habitude, in another direction, it started with a brief discussion of St. Barthelemy time in the greater concept of island time. Well it happened again.
Nine days ago we called a technician to repair our no longer functioning oven. After a brief analysis he informed us that an electronic module was needed from France and would take 10 days to obtain. I said to my lovely wife as an aside, "I bet he says that to all his clients." Gulp, gulp, gulp is the sound of Tim eating his words. I got a call today, nine days after the original visit, to tell me he was on his way to Vitet to fix the oven. Two visits to my home cost 35 euros plus the part. This type of thing is happening with such regularity as to become mundane, and I promise not to bore readers with another such account.
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JEK
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Tim wrangled this thread right back on topic. Nice!
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stbartslover
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Tim, I think I know the guy! He fixed the vent fan over our cooktop, voila, merci, 29E! I'll send a PM so we won't bore others with villa maintence details (we could list our experiences in a book with Kara) and allow posters to focus here on more important matters.
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NYCFred
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<<<Tim, I think I know the guy!>>>> As the owner of an island home, (Fire Island, NY) i find it a lot easier to tear into stuff myself...very limited cars on the island, gotta bring most items in by freight boat... you guys ever think of taking a whack at something simple yourselves rather than calling the repair guy? parts for everything are on the web... Of course, then it becomes a time/value equation...
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tim
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Actually I've only had to call in technicians 3 times in the last five years, this last occasion due to the fact that the problem was an electronic module on a european appliance. I'm not much on electronics. Routine plumbing and electrical generally aren't a problem for me, but a month ago I replaced, with a skilled friend's help, the freezer door on a refrigerator that included ice maker opening and water supply. I was stumped in how to remove a piece of glued on trim without bending when my friend, a noted dentist, showed me how to slice through the glue with dental floss. We were really proud of the fact that we got it all done in only four hours. Now I come pretty cheap, but if I'd been in my friends chair for four hours, I'd have spent almost enough to buy a new refrigerator. Anyway we had fun doing it.
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Reminds me....for a certain type of visitor, the "True Value" hardware store in Gustavia is a must see...lotsa nifty tools, and an "Attention au Chien" sign for the dog in your life...LOL
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ChasBidd
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Swing by and see my garage on SBH. Spare parts for the generator, scrap lumber from 10s of 1000s DYI projects, odd assortments of PVC pipe, a case of WD-40, duct tape, electrical tape hundreds of assorted tools, paint, brushes, thinner, wire, line, screen and the 5 minute epoxy. I do most all repairs myself.
House call repair men are a relatively new species. When building was in it's prime, all workers went to new construction. It took some time for people to get experience and then realize that there was a secondary market to support those homes and such that were built.
I think you will find that most home owners on SBH are pretty handy with the screwdriver. They are a pretty resourceful group as well.
When pools were first introduced, not as long ago as you might think, all pool filter work was done by the owner. See my filter. Ha!
In reality, the repairs on SBH are more manual and time consuming rather than particularly technical.
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tim
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Chas,
Your history on St. B really goes back to the good old days. I still want to hear about Camp David but will understand if that story requires a shared bottle or so of wine. Do you have a generator for current power failures or has that been around since the days before reliable electricity?
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ChasBidd
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Goaded into a response. Let me see if I can pull together several threads. ..I was going to go out to dinner with my lovely wife last night to the latest and greatest resteraunt here in North Salem after fixing a leaky pipe but the blizzard and a dead truck battery kept us in. Naked, relying on our generator for emergency power, we sat by our toasty, roaring fire, trying new vintages from the local wineries, thinking of the old days in SBH.
My musings brought me to visions of early Camp David.
I was introduced to SBH in the late 1960s. I was a mere youth of 10 / 11 years old. Some of the founding fathers and mothers of modern day SBH were still alive, had hair and were still svelt. Even as a boy, I could feel the buccaneer, free spirit, laise faire attitude that prevailed on the island.
Building a house and furnishing it was a real adventure for my parents. I was fortunate to be a part of helping my father create his mecca.
I digress....
My brother and I used to cruise St. Jean in our ubiquitious surfer jams. (Those printed cotton knee length things that we insisted were bathing suits.) Eden Rock was the only commmercial enterprize there. In my innocence, Eden Rock served only two purposes.. 1) a place to stop and see the loungouste in their pens and 2) something to circumvent in order to get from one end of the idilic beach to the other. Topas bar??
So, in the early 70's, during our beach wanderings we happened across a new establishment being crudely erected / cleared between the beach and a swampy environ on the eastern crescent of St. Jean. There, we spied "middle aged" men and women dressed or undressed in what appeared to be Tarzan and Jane outfits, making "Camp". Hammocks, open fires, palm frond shelters, candles in coconuts and wine bottles, 55 gallon barrels of water and styrofoam refrigerators made up the household furnishings. Bronzed, blonde, naked toddlers ran blissfully, randomly about. This is what I remember of what I believe is now called Camp David. Back then, it was Michael's Camp.
Michael was the camp's founder and alpha dog. I never determined what the relationships were between the men, women and children. (other than assuming the children belonged to the older campers) I never cared to know and I still could not care less. Everyone at the camp was very nice to my brother and me. It was a fun place to visit and play. Sort of a Swiss Family Robinson type place in our minds. Over time / several different visits to SBH and Michael's commune, we would see some new faces in residence. (some had left)
I vividly remember Michael and my collecting spiny urchins in st. Jean bay, bringing them to the beach, opening them with my knife on a piece of driftwood, squeezing lime juice on the roe and slurping it all down. If only I was old enough to chase it with a swig of Mt. Gay. Michael did.
It may be my imagination, but I think I remember Michael, either being from "money" or had made some money and had gotten burned out in his rat race. Regardless, he was a very nice guy. My father and Michael would talk about things as they related to living on SBH. The past or the "real" world was never discussed.
I do not really know the full story behind the camp and I lost touch with the evolution of the camp's development as I had to grow up, get further educated and start paying my own bills.
Just some of my thoughts, forgive the ramble and misspellings..
Chas.
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tim
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Chas, C'est magnifique! Merci beaucoup.
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KevinS
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What is Camp David now? I saw the sign when I was staying at villa DAD a few years ago, but still don't know what it refers to.
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tim
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Chas,
And idea what attracted your family to St. Barth originally? Surely at that time it was like going to the edge of the earth.
Kevin,
I can't help with the current state of Camp David, but I too am curious. Maybe another reader can help.
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JackR
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We had a lovely hike on Friday, wore sandels to avoid the sea urchins. Lovely place and we were all along for a time there.
BTW Saw that my car tag is still hanging in select SB971
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tim
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JackR,
Sounds like a great trip, and I'm glad you found the hike okay. I have a crazy friend who wants me to hike with him around that mountain to Saline Beach. It's such a crazy idea that I won't divulge his name but will identify him only by his initials, JEK.
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JimmyR
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Kevin,I'll be staying at villa DAD March 6th-13th. how was it?We have stayed at villa BOO(also in the camp david compound)Several times.It was not available so we chose DAD.We really enjoy the convenience of being right in St.Jean.Any more reports on beach erosion in St.Jean?
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