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EricandAmy



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Villa Shell Beach?
      #87595 - 02/11/07 05:39 PM

We are planning our second trip back to St. Barts this Summer and trying to decide on a villa. Anyone stayed at Villa Shell Beach near Shell Beach/Lurin lately? Comments on furnishings, access, and privacy?

Thanks!


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Petri



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: EricandAmy]
      #87602 - 02/11/07 10:17 PM

We spent about a week at Villa Shell Beach in mid January. Loic Aomraoui was a very nice, friendly man and I have no doubt if there was even a small problem at the villa, he would arrive and fix it quickly.

The villa is very private, you don't see it from shell beach and there's only one neighbour, which I believe is the owner's cousin or something. One could occasionally hear his TV or radio but it's very quiet location considering it's still a walking distance from Gustavia. You can see the boats that are mooring front of Shell Beach.

Access is easy by car, a steep small road right after Carl Gustav hotel, a minute or two drive. It might be a bit troublesome after rain, though. You can walk to Gustavia if you don't mind going up and down the hill ;-) During the evening you may want to carry flash light to see where you're walking.

The furnishing has a sea theme, plenty of sea-related items around. Overall in good conditions but don't expect everything to be new and spotless. If you look at the pictures on the web, they're quite realistic. We didn't spend much time in the living room, if we were at the villa, we were at the pool or on the patio with the big table. They have french Canal digital and you can play CD/DVD's on the DVD player -- if you really want to.

We only used the bedroom on the main floor, which was quite fine. The bed is a bit too large for the room so there's not much space around it. Plenty of space for your clothes. There are two windows with shutters, no glass, so you need to be creative with the curtains to keep the mosquitoes out and get light in ;-)

The bathroom is quite big. The bathtub / shower is a bit funny, perhaps due the owners origins from Algeria. You don't really fit in the bath and you cannot shower under the shower, what you can do is that you can sit in the bathtub (there's a place for it) and shower there. Works ok, though.

The kitchen is well equipped although we didn't cook that much. The restaurants on the island are too good ;-)


Would I stay again at Villa Shell Beach? Most likely, but it wouldn't stop us from looking other villas as well. We come to the Caribbean for sun and light so the lighter and brighter the better, and this villa was a bit on the darker side - I'm not really sure why considering it had white ceiling and walls in the living room. The other issue was small creatures, cockroaches and the like. Back at home we don't have any of them, and nothing that's bigger than your fingernail. We saw a few creatures while there, mostly on the first day, and used our fair share of Raid. I guess the villa has plenty of hiding places for them and with plush vegetation around, there's little you can do about it. But this is really about what you're used to and we're not used to anything that is longer than 1 cm ;-)

Anyway, for the price Villa Shell Beach has plenty of room and space. The pool area is relatively large, separate jazucci downstairs, the patio with it's big table, big bathroom, etc. Your average villa for the same money is most likely smaller. The location is also excellent, not to mention the friendly owner.

We like to separate villas and hotels to "place to stay at" and "place to live at" categories. Villa Shell Beach, like most of other places where we've been around the world, is in the "place to stay at" category. We were sleeping there and having breakfast, but for most days we went to the beaches or elsewhere and dined out in the evenings. A place like La Baleine is in the "place to live at" category, when the villa is so nice that you really have to work hard to leave the villa and go to the beach. There you feel like you're at home. Unfortunately it's very difficult to find gems like this.


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jlillberto



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Petri]
      #87629 - 02/12/07 08:24 AM

We're staying at Villa Shell Beach next month. How big are the bugs??? Does the villa get afternoon sun? Now I'm worried. I hate bugs. Were they thoughout the villa? We were in St. Croix in January and there are fuzzy black, catipillar bugs that were everywhere, inside and out. But we didn't see cockroaches, etc. However, I've seen some monster cockroaches throughout the Caribbean. Did you make coffee? What type of coffee maker? Any other tips or thoughts?

Thank you so much.


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Petri



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: jlillberto]
      #87728 - 02/13/07 02:32 AM

Quote:

We're staying at Villa Shell Beach next month. How big are the bugs??? Does the villa get afternoon sun? Now I'm worried. I hate bugs. Were they thoughout the villa? We were in St. Croix in January and there are fuzzy black, catipillar bugs that were everywhere, inside and out. But we didn't see cockroaches, etc. However, I've seen some monster cockroaches throughout the Caribbean. Did you make coffee? What type of coffee maker? Any other tips or thoughts?




I'm not expert on bugs, nor do I know the names in english (or finnish for that matter ;-).. we saw a few cockroaches, between 5-10 cm in length. We also saw a few smaller ones that looked bit like cockroaches but they take small jumps, not sure what they are. We tried to make a bit more noise, sprayed the bedroom and bathroom, kept the lights on a bit more -- for most days we didn't see anything. I think in total over the week we saw less than a dozen so it's not that serious issue.

We didn't see any other "interesting bugs" nor caterpillar-type of bugs. We were in Nevis many years ago and it was so green island that we had to sleep with the lights on to keep the animals away. It was a very lovely island but also a zoo from this respect.

Couple of birds tried to make a nest to the patio lamps. Unfortunately the lamps didn't have any bottom so all the small branches and grass they brought fell to the floor. That was fun to watch ;-)

For afternoon sun Villa Shell Beach is perfect. The sunset view is better than from Shell Beach and you can enjoy the afternoon all the way to the sunset from the pool or jazucci area. Very good for that.

The coffee maker was a standard one, I don't drink normal coffee but my girlfriend used filter-grinded coffee from the Coffee Shop every morning. I preferred to take a trip to the Coffee Shop for espresso or latte but I'm spoiled with the machine we have at home ;-)


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jlillberto



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Petri]
      #87765 - 02/13/07 07:41 AM

Thank you Petri. We have a great espresso machine here too that I'll really miss. I have a serious caffeine addiction! We have a winter storm warning with lots of snow and blizzard conditions so anywhere in St. Barths beats this!

Thanks again.

Judy


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rob



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: jlillberto]
      #87773 - 02/13/07 07:53 AM

I hear that you actually have to TIE DOWN the coffee maker, or the roaches will drag it off.

Just kidding, I hate bugs too.


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GayleR



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: jlillberto]
      #87776 - 02/13/07 07:56 AM

I strongly suggest you request that the owner have the house sprayed. Many villas have this done monthly.

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KevinS



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: GayleR]
      #87873 - 02/13/07 02:17 PM

It's the tropics! Bugs come and go, no matter how clean the house is. If they bother you then do as Gayle suggests and ask to have the house sprayed.

Edited by KevinS (02/13/07 03:53 PM)


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: KevinS]
      #87878 - 02/13/07 02:50 PM

Quote:

It's the tropics! Bugs come and go, no matter how clean the house is. If they bother you then do as Gaylse suggests and ask to have the house sprayed.




Only one bug to avoid on the isle . . . .




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Petri



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: jlillberto]
      #87879 - 02/13/07 02:52 PM

I think I could almost do drugs and still not be addicted ;-) I never got hooked into smoking when younger, and even if I normally drink a few espressos a day, I can easily live a month without any.

Quote:

We have a winter storm warning with lots of snow and blizzard conditions ..




Sounds like fun, just take your car around for a spin! Driving on snow is great fun when you can let the car go into controlled slide and they you just "catch it" with loosing the acceleration. I hate when my girlfriend does it but I love to do it myself when I'm driving by myself ;-)

One day I'll take a track day to a snow track on a frozen lake where you can do it at much higher speed and there's just safe, soft snow around if you don't "make it" the first time..


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Petri]
      #87888 - 02/13/07 05:21 PM

Quote:

I think I could almost do drugs and still not be addicted ;-) I never got hooked into smoking when younger, and even if I normally drink a few espressos a day, I can easily live a month without any.

Quote:

We have a winter storm warning with lots of snow and blizzard conditions ..




Sounds like fun, just take your car around for a spin! Driving on snow is great fun when you can let the car go into controlled slide and they you just "catch it" with loosing the acceleration. I hate when my girlfriend does it but I love to do it myself when I'm driving by myself ;-)

One day I'll take a track day to a snow track on a frozen lake where you can do it at much higher speed and there's just safe, soft snow around if you don't "make it" the first time..




I don't think your ice driving experience rivals anything we have here- thank God. I just want to get the hell off the road and into my garage. I hate other drivers in snow conditions.

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: rob]
      #87934 - 02/14/07 06:27 AM

<<I hear that you actually have to TIE DOWN the coffee maker, or the roaches will drag it off...Just kidding, I hate bugs too. >>>

You would have loved the site inspection I did yesterday, in the wet basement of an 80 year old manhattan brownstone....
The b@stards just sit there looking at you. Don't even move when the lite comes on.
and BIG....in Fla, they'd be uh, palmetto bugs...LOL

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: NYCFred]
      #87939 - 02/14/07 06:44 AM

I guess that kills the prospects for Shell Beach villa. I hope the owner isn't reading this.

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GayleR



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: andynap]
      #87971 - 02/14/07 07:59 AM

Maybe it would be a good thing if the owner does read this.

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Berber



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: GayleR]
      #87975 - 02/14/07 08:27 AM

It's the tropics ! Bugs come and go ..but not the roaches ...???? I think they need a new maid. I hate roaches too..not for me villa Shell beach.
Don't forget your spray and good luck.


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loicA



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: GayleR]
      #87977 - 02/14/07 08:39 AM

go ahead guys.Have fun with Villa shell beach. I'm the owner and next time you have a chance to come on SBH i'll be able to show you the invoce from "DEAD MOUSTIC COMPANY " .they come every two month to spray the villa.I understand people when they dont like a villa, but i hate when people lying .our villa's on the market for 3 years now, and this is the first time i heard things like this.Several guest who's came in the villa write some post on this forum, and they never say anithing about bugs or whatever.

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LindaP



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Berber]
      #87978 - 02/14/07 08:39 AM

Loic is going to be pulling out his hair!!!!! We stayed at villa shell beach this past April.....saw no cockroaches(I would've told Loic). But, it has the usual mosquitos, that show up @ sunset. When we stayed at SIB CLO, in Columbier, they also had bad mosquitos at that time of day.....yes, you are in the tropics, and you just have to use some spray.
Villa Shell Beach was a very private, perfect sunset villa....and easy to get to places from it's location.
On the snow front.....wer'e getting nailed here, I've already been on my X-country skiis on the main roads....already got a foot, expecting more. I would try the car spins Petri, but my Audi TT, with its snows on, won't do it!!!!!!!!!!:)


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Petri



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: LindaP]
      #87983 - 02/14/07 09:32 AM

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I would try the car spins Petri, but my Audi TT, with its snows on, won't do it!:)




It easier on RWD car.. one can do it even with studded winter tires so that's no limit. I was just reading the newspaper this morning and they wrote about the Bentley Ice Driving that's happening on some lake up in the north. Some locals are complaining about the noise.

"Taking to the wheel of a Bentley under normal conditions and understanding how the car handles on twisting country roads is exhilarating enough in itself. Understanding how it, and you, will react in the extreme conditions of snow and ice is another matter altogether.

Bentley have developed a series of unique driving experiences, tailor-made to take you and the car to the limit and safely back again; all whilst on the frozen lakes in the Finnish wilderness and all under the watchful eye of our professional instructors."

They have about 10 Bentley GT's and FlyingSpur's for the Bentley owners (or others willing to pay for the fun) to drive with. The instructor is a former rally driver world champion.


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: loicA]
      #87984 - 02/14/07 09:45 AM

Insects and the tropics come hand in hand I'm afaid. I think most people who post on this site understand this. The feedback on your villa has been mostly if not entirely positive up to this recent post. I don't feel it is unresponsible that someone who paid to stay at your villa gave heartfelt feedback, positive(as is most of the time) or negative (as in this exception). We all count on this feedback to chose a villa for vacation in SBH.

I live in Florida. We need to spray once a month to keep the roaches away. The owner of the villa we will enjoy this summer in SBH sprays twice per month for mostiques- just an idea.


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Petri



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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: loicA]
      #87986 - 02/14/07 10:06 AM

Loic, I'm not sure if you're referring to my post or some other but anyway.. I don't think VIlla Shell Beach has a bug problem nor did we find or experience anything that would make us not to stay at the villa again.

On 12th January evening when arriving from dinner, I saw a 6-7 cm thing(* on the kitchen counter and it quickly run away. During the night I woke up first followed by my girlfriend waking up waving her hands like a crazy, saying that something just run over him. Later she saw a similar 6-7 cm thing(* in the bathroom next to the bathtub, that also quickly run away.

The thing looked something like:



As I said, I don't know much about bugs but we thought it was a cockroach of somekind. Googling around I can also find cockroaches that look nothing like what we saw so it could well be some other kind of an animal, I don't know.

Over the week we also saw about half a dozen smaller creatures, about the size of a 20 euro cent coin, outside on the patio, a few times around the dishwasher and in the bathroom ceiling. They looked a bit similar but much smaller and antennas about the size of their body. They run quite fast and did small jumps. I don't know what they were.

We sprayed RAID around the bad and around the bathroom and slept very well for rest of the stay. Considering St. Barth is in the tropics and that we saw just a few, we assumed they are just part of the life and not worth mentioning.


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Petri]
      #87999 - 02/14/07 11:20 AM

We actually toured Villa Shell Beach with the lovely Rosita. It is a very attractive villa. The driveway is a little steep but nothing out of the ordinary for St Barths. I would get a four wheel drive in case it rains but you need a 4WD just to get up the hill by The Guse in the rain anyway so that is no biggy.

The villa itself is pretty cool, somewhat different than a lot of other villas. It was the family home and is built a little more like a home than some other villas. It is very attractively done, private and has a nice view of the water below it. There seems to be a lot of nice touches and personal attention to the place.

As to moustics or other critters, I didn't see a one while we were there. But we all know how the game goes: Spray for critters and most die. Just before you spray again, some have come back. As such, have the place sprayed before you get there and you should be fine. That advice can be copied and pasted to every villa on the island, BTW.

There is not a lot of construction in the area, ergo there should not be a lot of scallapods in the area.

For those of you who like to be near Gustavia and Gouverneur, this seems like a dandy little villa. The price is pleasing and it is a very cute little place. All in all, I can see why people like it.


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Island Visitor]
      #88051 - 02/14/07 08:05 PM

Uh, Jean?
Godzilla pic needed in this thread, ASAP.

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: NYCFred]
      #88054 - 02/15/07 03:18 AM

Fred,
I posted the scalapoid version of Godzilla just above!

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Berber]
      #88118 - 02/15/07 09:09 AM

<<<It's the tropics ! Bugs come and go >>>

Yeah, this is sorta like the people that were bitching about the fish...in the ocean...at Gouvernour...

Like, what WERE you expecting?

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: NYCFred]
      #88120 - 02/15/07 09:16 AM

Quote:

<<<It's the tropics ! Bugs come and go >>>

Yeah, this is sorta like the people that were bitching about the fish...in the ocean...at Gouvernour...

Like, what WERE you expecting?




Next it will be the humidity. Gee, my hair frizzes down there in Saint Barths!

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: JEK]
      #88122 - 02/15/07 09:18 AM

Quote:

Next it will be the humidity. Gee, my hair frizzes down there in Saint Barths!




Or "I got too much sun in places that dont usually get sun."

Gee, uh, ya think?


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Island Visitor]
      #88123 - 02/15/07 09:22 AM

Or, the every popular: "Every time I go to the beach for nude sunbathing I come home with a sandy monkey"

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Island Visitor]
      #88124 - 02/15/07 09:27 AM

Let me put this in perspective.

We have all seen those movies about plane crashes or ancient civilizations that "over time" were buried in the flora of the tropics.

Well, I am here to tell you that is GARBAGE.

There isn't any "over time" in the equation. It is immediate.

In 2005, we saw a property in the tropics. Lovely hillside place, completely cleared, not a plant on it, having been freshly scraped by the bulldozers. The driveway was cut out of a hill and essentially solid rock. Wow. Way cool.

We went back 11 months later. Where was the place? Geez, it was BURIED by trees and plants and flowers and cacti and shrubs and green stuff such that there was not even one little glimpse of rock to be seen anywhere. Could hardly even find the driveway which was also equally buried. AMAZING.

Long story short is this: In the tropics, you fight and fight and fight and obtain temporary advantage but you never win.

As such, there will ALWAYS be critters around a villa, any villa, unless it has been sprayed relatively recently. Request that your villa be sprayed before you get there and things should be fine.


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: JEK]
      #88125 - 02/15/07 09:28 AM

Quote:

Or, the every popular: "Every time I go to the beach for nude sunbathing I come home with a sandy monkey"




As Timothé is apt to say: Somebody's gotta do it!


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Island Visitor]
      #88130 - 02/15/07 09:45 AM

actually, I mis-spoke..(wrote?)

the people i was referring to were bitching about the SEAWEED...in the ocean...at gouvernour....

guess it was the pool boy's day off....

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: NYCFred]
      #88148 - 02/15/07 10:42 AM

there are people out there ( surprise surprise..mostly in America) who live completely sterile lives...everything is neat and orderly and homogenized and that which isnt is eliminated or mutated into a form which is .......they want crystal clear chemically preserved pools where no life exists in the chlorinated soup...they want a bug free living environment which is insured via massive doses of carcinogenic chemicals routinely sprayed in their homes, and they will pay any amount to insure they get it that way....they want to overdose themselves with antibiotics at the first sign of a malady, much to the delight of big pharma, to make themselves better quicker, rather then let their immune system work at its own pace...and thats all well and good except....most of the rest of the world is not that way...so when they leave the comforts of their biospshere lives.....it becomes quite disturbing to them that these little horrors not only actually exist in the world but that scores of populaitons actually accept it as such and live in conjunction with it all....I read an artcle a while back that basically said we in America are living such unnaturally sterle lives, and to such a degree, that a viral attack or any form of germ warfare on us by an enemy would be far more effecitive then any other means, because our immunities have become so compromised through our unnaturally sterile standard of living.....
and the nice people of St Barts, as well as other tropical communities are really trying their best to not only accomodate our need for sterile perfection, but are also trying to understand it

its the tropics for God sakes....germs...viruses....bacteria...and insects all not only exist but flourish...get over it....or book a nice vacation in Anartica


Dorothy put it best.....lions and tigers and bears....oh my!!!!...LOL


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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Mike R]
      #88150 - 02/15/07 10:47 AM

Mike

I don't always agree with you :) but on that comment I have to say a resounding here, here! I thought I was a voice in the wilderness on that position.

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: infi]
      #88152 - 02/15/07 10:55 AM

GASP!!!...you dont always agree with me?????????????


what do I do now?????...LOL


its okay...I'm used to it..but its nice to see on this topic I am not alone

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Re: Villa Shell Beach? new [Re: Mike R]
      #88159 - 02/15/07 11:45 AM